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'''This document describes an obsolete version of the Hesperic family which is currently undergoing a major revision.''' --[[User:WeepingElf|WeepingElf]] ([[User talk:WeepingElf|talk]]) 12:14, 15 January 2024 (PST)
 
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'''Hesperic''' is a [[language family|family]] of [[diachronic conlang]]s by [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]] spoken in the world of the [[League of Lost Languages]].  So far, only one Hesperic language, [[Old Albic]], has been worked out in detail.


The Hesperic languages are spoken in various [[residual zone]]s in Central and Western Europe, with a total number of speakers not exceeding 50,000 today, though the family once had many more speakers as the extant Hesperic languages are the last remains of a once great language family that was later eclipsed and displaced by [[Indo-European languages|Indo-European]] (Old Albic alone is estimated to have been spoken by about 2 million people during the apogee of the [[Commonwealth of the Elves]] around 600 BC).
'''Hesperic''' is a [[language family|family]] of [[diachronic conlang]]s by [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]] spoken in the world of [[Atla]]. This family forms an early diverging branch of the [[Indo-European languages|Indo-European]] family, even more archaic than [[Wikipedia:Anatolian languages|Anatolian]]. So far, [[Old Albic]] is the best-elaborated language of the family.


The Hesperic languages are an attempt at fleshing out the hypothetical [[Aquan languages]].  The common ancestor of the Hesperic languages, Proto-Hesperic, may have been the language of the [[Wikipedia:Linear Pottery culture|Linear Pottery culture]], the first Neolithic farming culture of Central Europe.  The common ancestor of the West Hesperic branch (see below) may have been the language of the [[Wikipedia:Beaker culture|Beaker culture]].  However, such identifications of language families with archaeological cultures always have to be taken with a grain of salt, as languages and material cultures often do not match.  The [[Old European hydronymy]] may be Hesperic in origin, but as the original meanings of those names are unknown, such an identification remains speculative.
==Sources==


Hesperic is a [[Mitian]] language family and appears to be related to [[Indo-European languages|Indo-European]] (see also [[Europic]]).
The Hesperic language family was originally built on an internal reconstruction (by the author himself, but drawing on the ideas of various scholars such as [[Wikipedia:Tamaz V. Gamkrelidze|T. V. Gamkrelidze]], [[Wikipedia:Vyacheslav Ivanov (philologist)|V. V. Ivanov]] and the late, lamented [[Wikipedia:Jens Elmegård Rasmussen|J. E. Rasmussen]]) of an early stage of [[Proto-Indo-European]]; a part of the vocabulary is based on words in Celtic and Germanic languages without good PIE etymologies which may be loanwords from a substratum language. Further inspiration for the building of the family came from the [[Uralic]] and [[Wikipedia:Kartvelian languages|Kartvelian]] language families.
 
==Classification==


The classification given here is preliminary, and many designations provisional, as most of the Hesperic languages are still unexplored.
Since then, the author has changed his view concerning the degree of relationship between Hesperic and Indo-European, from a sister group of IE as a whole to a branch that forked off at about the same time as Anatolian, and he is currently reworking the fictional history of the family in order to make it fit the new assumptions regarding its origin.


'''Hesperic'''
Conlangs of inspirational value are chiefly the [[Quendian]] ([[J. R. R. Tolkien]]), [[Eastern languages (Almea)|Eastern]] ([[Mark Rosenfelder]]) and [[Sunovian]] (Geoff Eddy) families which inspired me to build a large, diverse language family.
* West Hesperic
:* Narrow West Hesperic
::* [[Albic]]
:::* [[Old Albic]]
::* Continental West Hesperic
:::* Gallo-Hesperic
:::* [[Alpianic]]
:::* Mediterranean Hesperic
::::* Ibero-Hesperic
::::* Italo-Hesperic
:::::* [[Attidian]]
:* Viddan
* East Hesperic
:* Balto-Hesperic
:* Carpathian Hesperic


===The "Kastenholz scheme"===
==Overview (intrafictional)==


The ''Kastenholz scheme'' (named after a fictional linguist) groups the eight branches of Hesperic in a 3x3 grid (with one empty cell):
The Hesperic languages are spoken in various [[residual zone]]s in Central and Western Europe, with a total number of speakers not exceeding 50,000 today, though the family once had many more speakers ([[Old Albic]] alone is estimated to have been spoken by about 2 million people at its apogee about 600 BC).


{|class="wikitable"
This family is a branch of Indo-European that separated from the rest of the family early, perhaps around 3500 BC, and is probably associated with the first wave of Indo-European expansion which also resulted in the formation of the Anatolian branch.
|-
!  
! West
! Central
! East
|-
! North
| Albic
| Viddan
| Balto-H.
|-
! Central
| Gallo-H.
| Eteohelvetic
| Carpathian H.
|-
! South
| Ibero-H.
| Italo-H.
|  
|}


This chart corresponds to four major isogloss bundles, two running north-south and two running east-west, characterized as below.
[[Proto-Hesperic]] would have been spoken about 3000 BC in Central Europe, and thus probably contemporaneous to the Late PIE the standard reconstruction represents (which may have been likewise about 3000 BC, but the dating is controversial). The family also shows similarities to the [[Uralic]] languages, and appears to be something like the "missing link" [[Indo-Uralic|between]] Indo-European and Uralic. Typological similarities also exist to the [[Kartvelian languages]], but this does not appear to reveal a relationship, unless these similarities can be ascribed to a [[Krelian]] substratum.


====Northern zone====
Today, however, all Hesperic languages have to be considered endangered, and none has official status in the country or countries where it is spoken.


* Moderate to large consonant inventories
==Classification==
* Long and short vowels
* Pitch accent with two contrasting intonations (thrusting and slipping tone) on long vowels
* Preservation of all five Proto-Hesperic primary cases
* Richly developed secondary cases
* Complex verb morphology with two sets of personal endings


====Central zone====
'''Hesperic'''
* North Hesperic
:* [[Albic]]
::* [[Old Albic]]†
:::* [[Middle Albic]]†
::* [[South Albic]]
:::* Low Elvish
::::* [[Avalonian]]
::::* [[Sinjenich]]
:::* [[Macaronesian]]
::::* [[Azorese]]
::::* [[Madeirese]]
::::* [[Sea Elvish]]
::* Neck Albic
::* [[Arwinish]]
::* [[Ivernic]]
:* [[Hercynian]]
:* [[Alpianic]]
* South Hesperic
:* [[Puranian]]
:* [[Durian]]
:* [[Padivian]]


* Moderate consonant inventories
* Long and short vowels
* Stress accent
* Four-case system
* Moderately complex verb morphology
====Southern zone====
* Small consonant inventories
* No long vowels
* Stress accent
* Topic-prominent noun declension, topic marker from genitive
* Simple verb morphology
====Western slice====
* Loss of aspiration (only partially in Albic)
* Drummond's Law (velarization of consonants followed by laryngeal with loss of the laryngeal)
* Vowel umlauts
* Initial accent (lost in parts of Albic)
====Central slice====
* Spirantization of aspirates (also in parts of Albic)
* Drummond's Law (except Viddan)
* Monophtongization of diphthongs
* Initial accent
====Eastern slice====
* Loss of aspiration
* Gemination of consonants followed by laryngeals
* Palatalizations
* Penultimate accent


===Influence of Standard Average European===
===Influence of Standard Average European===
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The Hesperic languages have been influenced to various degrees by the [[Wikipedia:Standard Average European|Standard Average European]] linguistic area.  The influence of this Sprachbund is strongest in Alpianic and weakest in Albic.
The Hesperic languages have been influenced to various degrees by the [[Wikipedia:Standard Average European|Standard Average European]] linguistic area.  The influence of this Sprachbund is strongest in Alpianic and weakest in Albic.


==Main sound correspondences==
{|class="wikitable"
|-
! [[Proto-Hesperic|PH]]
! [[Albic]]
! [[Hercynian|Herc.]]
! [[Alpianic|Alp.]]
! [[Puranian|Pur.]]
! [[Durian]]
! [[Padivian|Pad.]]
! [[Proto-Indo-European|PIE]]
|-
| ph || ph || p/f || pf/f || f || p || f || p
|-
| th || th || t/θ || ts/s || t || t || f || t
|-
| kh || kh || k/x || kx/x || k || k || h || k
|-
| p || p || p || ph || p || p || p || b
|-
| t || t || t || th || t || t || t || d
|-
| k || k || k || kh || k || k || k || g
|-
| b || b || b/v || p || b || b || b || bh
|-
| d || d || d/ð || t || d || d || d || dh
|-
| g || g || g/ɣ || k || g || g || g || gh
|-
| s || s || s || h || s || s || s || s
|-
| x || ʕ/h || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || h || h2/h3
|-
| h || ʕ/h || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || h1
|-
| m || m || m || m || m || m || m || m
|-
| n || n || n || n || n || n || n || n
|-
| l || l || l || l || l || l || l || l
|-
| r || r || r || r || r || r || r || r
|-
| w || w || w || f || v || v || v || w
|-
| j || j || j || j || j || j || j || y
|-
| u || u || u || u || u || u || u || eu/ou/u
|-
| i || i || i || i || i || i || i || ei/oi/i
|-
| a || a || a || a || a || a || a || e/o/0
|-
|}


[[Category:Hesperic|*]]
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[[Category:LLL]]
[[Category:LLL]]
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Latest revision as of 12:14, 15 January 2024

This document describes an obsolete version of the Hesperic family which is currently undergoing a major revision. --WeepingElf (talk) 12:14, 15 January 2024 (PST)

Hesperic
Spoken in: Europe
Conworld: Atla
Total speakers: ca. 50,000
Genealogical classification: Indo-European
Hesperic
see below
Basic word order: varies
Morphological type: varies
Morphosyntactic alignment: varies
Created by:
Jörg Rhiemeier 2000-


Hesperic is a family of diachronic conlangs by Jörg Rhiemeier spoken in the world of Atla. This family forms an early diverging branch of the Indo-European family, even more archaic than Anatolian. So far, Old Albic is the best-elaborated language of the family.

Sources

The Hesperic language family was originally built on an internal reconstruction (by the author himself, but drawing on the ideas of various scholars such as T. V. Gamkrelidze, V. V. Ivanov and the late, lamented J. E. Rasmussen) of an early stage of Proto-Indo-European; a part of the vocabulary is based on words in Celtic and Germanic languages without good PIE etymologies which may be loanwords from a substratum language. Further inspiration for the building of the family came from the Uralic and Kartvelian language families.

Since then, the author has changed his view concerning the degree of relationship between Hesperic and Indo-European, from a sister group of IE as a whole to a branch that forked off at about the same time as Anatolian, and he is currently reworking the fictional history of the family in order to make it fit the new assumptions regarding its origin.

Conlangs of inspirational value are chiefly the Quendian (J. R. R. Tolkien), Eastern (Mark Rosenfelder) and Sunovian (Geoff Eddy) families which inspired me to build a large, diverse language family.

Overview (intrafictional)

The Hesperic languages are spoken in various residual zones in Central and Western Europe, with a total number of speakers not exceeding 50,000 today, though the family once had many more speakers (Old Albic alone is estimated to have been spoken by about 2 million people at its apogee about 600 BC).

This family is a branch of Indo-European that separated from the rest of the family early, perhaps around 3500 BC, and is probably associated with the first wave of Indo-European expansion which also resulted in the formation of the Anatolian branch.

Proto-Hesperic would have been spoken about 3000 BC in Central Europe, and thus probably contemporaneous to the Late PIE the standard reconstruction represents (which may have been likewise about 3000 BC, but the dating is controversial). The family also shows similarities to the Uralic languages, and appears to be something like the "missing link" between Indo-European and Uralic. Typological similarities also exist to the Kartvelian languages, but this does not appear to reveal a relationship, unless these similarities can be ascribed to a Krelian substratum.

Today, however, all Hesperic languages have to be considered endangered, and none has official status in the country or countries where it is spoken.

Classification

Hesperic

  • North Hesperic
  • Low Elvish
  • South Hesperic


Influence of Standard Average European

The Hesperic languages have been influenced to various degrees by the Standard Average European linguistic area. The influence of this Sprachbund is strongest in Alpianic and weakest in Albic.

Main sound correspondences

PH Albic Herc. Alp. Pur. Durian Pad. PIE
ph ph p/f pf/f f p f p
th th t/θ ts/s t t f t
kh kh k/x kx/x k k h k
p p p ph p p p b
t t t th t t t d
k k k kh k k k g
b b b/v p b b b bh
d d d/ð t d d d dh
g g g/ɣ k g g g gh
s s s h s s s s
x ʕ/h 0 0 0 0 h h2/h3
h ʕ/h 0 0 0 0 0 h1
m m m m m m m m
n n n n n n n n
l l l l l l l l
r r r r r r r r
w w w f v v v w
j j j j j j j y
u u u u u u u eu/ou/u
i i i i i i i ei/oi/i
a a a a a a a e/o/0