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| That looks...remarkably similar to Turkish. Is it derived from Turkish, or a conTurkic lang or something?
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| Oh my god, that is truly amazing. Is that your conlang? ...it reminds me of turkish.
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| That looks...remarkably similar to Turkish. Is it derived from Turkish, or a conTurkic lang or something?
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| What they said. Amazing, Turkish-oid, all of it.
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| Terran humans for this:
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| What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life? Heart
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| What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion? Heart
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| What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness? Brain
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| Thanks. I'm getting curious about these Muphridians. Where do you have their conhistory stored?
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| Faranit. Although there is a little ambiguity.
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| eye - simah
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| Interesting! Is this suppletive, or irregular, or what? Is "soemaef" dual or plural? How are the forms "simah" and "soemaef" derived one from the other?
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| It's left over from an older plural system similar to German's lengthening system. I haven't worked out the specifics yet, unfortunately. It irregular, but with some method to its madness, as you can see the remnents of the earlier plural system, but also a worn down version of the later -(I/E)b system.
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| Maybe? It was buried in my lexicon and I thought I might as well...
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| muscle - hacaz (also means meat)
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| Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.
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| What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life?
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| Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.
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| Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".
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| My current conculture project is retooling a proto-language, so at the moment I lack a total vocabulary and am not too sure on how to expand the entire ideal. However, I would like to answer these questions here.
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| breast, tit, teat
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| How could you forget "breast" and "ass/arse"?
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| Contrast with the "aortic gnomist", a physician who specializes in the cardiovascular ailments of earth-elementals.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs
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| bulbaquil wrote:
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| Beftokan's still a new conlang (only about 150 words in the lexicon to date), but it does have most of the points of consonantal articulation noted (linguistics is a living science in Beftok), so I'll list them here:
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| lip - èman [e_M.ma_Ln] (paucal: kaèman)
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| tooth - ghîš [GI_Hs`]
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| tongue - šuun [s`u:n]
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| alveolar ridge - gìkew [gi_M.ke_L.M_L]
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| palate - bugháth [bu_L.Ga_Ht_h]
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| velum - ughom [u_L.GO_Lm]
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| uvula - bháplekh [Ba_H.plE_Lx]
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| glottis - durtan [du_L4.ta_Ln]
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| All body parts, including these, are considered to be part of the "human" noun class, and will decline according to it once I post the grammar.
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| -- Bulbaquil, 13 bhal. 875
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| Interesting! Thanks.
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| Boskobènet wrote:
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| I just thought of several terms one might include here. Not all of them will apply to all non-human species, but I've bolded the ones I think are essential, or at least very likely to be used among humans.
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| lip(s)
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| gums
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| palate
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| uvula
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| throat, esophagus ("I've got something in my neck" doesn't mean ... quite the same thing)
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| throat, thrachea, windpipe
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| breast, tit, teat
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| nipple
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| belly button
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| tendon
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| forehead
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| temple
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| bladder
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| calf
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| butt, buttocks, ass/arse
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| pelvis
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| spine, backbone
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| skull
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| rib(s) / ribcage
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| Interesting! Thanks.
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| Boskobènet wrote:
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| How could you forget "breast" and "ass/arse"?
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| "Breast" might not apply to non-mammals.
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| Nevertheless it should be included. Thanks for bringing it up.
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| "Ass/arse" should obviously apply to nearly any animal, even sea-squirts.
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| Thanks for including it.
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| Body Kanana
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| -Blood vessel aka
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| --Artery akala
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| --Vein akawana
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| -Material of which it is composed
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| --Bone ohakao
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| --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) lahala
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| --Skin lamaha
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| --Muscle kako
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| --Fat lapala
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| --Blood koko
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| -Trunk (torso) koho
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| --Chest hahaka
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| ---Heart 'alona
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| ---Lung lana
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| --Abdomen or Belly po'o
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| ---Stomach 'ahakalo
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| ---Liver lawala
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| ---Spleen hapalana
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| ---Intestines po'oloko
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| --Waist hopa
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| -Neck na'a
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| -Extremity
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| --Head opo'o
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| ---Hair ma'awa
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| ---Ear kalana
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| ----Earhole
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| ----Earlobe?
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| ---Eye 'alo
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| ----Eyeball
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| -----Iris
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| -----Pupil
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| -----Sclera
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| ----Eyebrow
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| ----Eyelid
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| -----Eyelash
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| ----Eye socket
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| ----Tear gland
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| ---Nose aho
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| ----Nostril
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| ---Mouth waha
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| ----Jaw
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| -----Maxilla (upper jaw)
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| -----Mandible (lower jaw)
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| ----Tooth
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| -----Incisor
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| -----Eyetooth or Canine Tooth
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| -----Molar (and/or premolar?)
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| ----Tongue
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| --Limb
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| ---Arm lana
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| ----Shoulder
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| ----Elbow
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| ----Wrist
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| ----Humerus (upper arm)
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| ----Lower Arm
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| ----Hand
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| -----Palm
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| ---Leg wawa
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| ----Hip
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| ----Knee
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| ----Ankle
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| ----Thigh (upper leg)
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| ----Shin
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| ----Foot
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| -----Sole
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| -----Heel
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| -----Ball
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| --Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
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| ---Nail
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| ----Fingernail
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| ----Toenail
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| ---Toe
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| ----Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)
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| ----Pinky toe or little toe
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| ----Other individual toes?
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| ---Thumb
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| ----Thumbnail
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| ---Finger
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| ----Index finger
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| ----Pinky finger
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| ----Middle finger
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| ----Ring finger
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| --genitalia
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| ---female
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| ----vagina kala
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| ----womb halapapa
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| ---male
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| ----penis ola
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| ----testicle paopao
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| -Side kaha
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| --Back mola
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| --Front moa
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| --Left maoa
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| --Right makao
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| --Bǽnar (bone)
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| --Flǽskar (flesh)
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| --Krígar (strength--muscle)
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| --Tálgar (fat)
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| --Bloðísøam (blood)
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| -Búlar (trunk, usually of a tree, but also a term for torso)
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| --Bármar (chest)
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| ---Hérto (heart)
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| ---Lúnġwar (lung)
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| --Hrǽfir (abdomen)
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| --Gérþu (waist)
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| -Hálsar (neck)
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| -Strǽkætiwir (limbs, lit. "extendeds")
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| --Haúbuðam (head)
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| ---Hǽrar (hair)
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| ---Aúro (ear)
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| ---Aúġa (eye)
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| ----Bréhwo (eyelash)
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| ---Snútar (nose)
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| ---Múnþar (mouth)
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| ----Kaúko (jaw)
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| ----Tánþar (tooth)
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| ----Túngo (tongue)
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| --Límu (limb)
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| ---Ármar (harm)
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| ----Sklúðro (shoulder)
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| ----Urístir (wrist)
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| ----Múndar (hand)
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| -----Lófar (palm)
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| ---Hýpir (hip)
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| ---Kníwam (knee)
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| ---Ánkulwar (ankle)
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| ---Þýhar (thigh)
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| ---Skíno (shin)
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| ---Fótam (foot)
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| ----Lǽstar (sole)
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| ----Hahílar (heel)
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| --Fíngrar (toe or thumb or finger)
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| ---Tǽhwo (toe)
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| ---Ðúmo (thumb)
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| --Fúlwatar (genitals, lit. "hiddens")
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| ---Kwénir (woman)
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| ----Slítam (vagina)
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| ----Wámbam
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| ---Mánnar (man)
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| ----Fýrnir (penis)
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| ----Bállukar (testicle)
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| -Síðo (side)
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| --Hrýggam (back)
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| --Faúro (front)
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| --Hleúmar (left)
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| --Ríhtar (right)
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| --Bóðam (bottom)
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| English - Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea - Trial: Sorosya Cheía
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| Are you talking about "trial number"? (A grammatical number for when a noun refers to exactly three items; distinguished from dual (two) and paucal (few).)
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| Body - elwer - ellor
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| -Blood vessel - uía - clœya
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| --Artery - súloŋ
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| --Vein - coluía ("bluish blood vessel")
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| --Bone - σá (σaxx-)/ σaxxode - shacchod
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| --Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) - δoσσa - dóssha
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| --Skin - sár (sarc-)/ sarca - chámha ["xA:w@]
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| --Muscle - deuma - tóimma
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| --Fat - gyom (gyób-) - ceóimb [cOmj]
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| --Blood - sur (surg-) - tía [ci:@]
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| -Trunk (torso)
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| --Chest - ámos
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| ---Heart - céo - chéomh [CE:w]
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| ---Lung - sválode - sbállod
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| --Abdomen or Belly - lomme - lóimm
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| ---Stomach - byallo - beáll
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| ---Liver - bóyar - póughar
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| ---Spleen - quellego
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| ---Pancreas - felgeustar
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| ---Intestines - zoibe, unyode - dsóibe [dzObj@]
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| --Waist
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| -Neck - dyalle - áirdeall [Ar\J\6l]
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| -Extremity
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| --Head - oan (oand-) - lúivan ["lu:vj@n], mhand [wAn]
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| ---Hair - fille - híll
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| ---Ear - lωm (lωv-) - lúabh ["lu:@v]
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| ----Earhole
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| ----Earlobe? - tulma - tsulma
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| ---Eye - sáde - sáitt [sac]
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| ----Eyeball - sassum (eye ball)
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| -----Iris - tiŋyen - tsínge [tSINj@]
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| -----Pupil - marya - máira ["mA:r\@]
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| -----Sclera
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| ----Eyebrow - círes (círeθ-) - chíreth
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| ----Eyelid - fánes (fáneθ-) - fáinneth
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| -----Eyelash - satwaco - sátmhag
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| ----Eye socket - sattuce
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| ----Tear gland - sádelos (sadeloσσ-)
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| ---Nose - tús (túy-) - áippeg
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| ----Nostril - túyoce - tsúghog
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| ---Mouth - beuta - tsúiga
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| ----Jaw - vaugo - vóugh
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| -----Maxilla (upper jaw) - arvaugo
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| -----Mandible (lower jaw) - survaugo
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| ----Tooth - náŋ (nág-) - nág
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| -----Incisor - ctainaŋ (cteinag-)
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| -----Eyetooth or Canine Tooth - sηnaŋ (sηnag-)
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| -----Molar (and/or premolar?) - aunaŋ (aunag-)
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| ----Tongue - maiga - máigga
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| --Limb
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| ---Arm - lámo - láom
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| ----Shoulder - marθa - mártha [mArh@]
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| ----Elbow - láδer - láidher ["lA:j\@r\]
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| ----Wrist - gyalláδer - gealláidher [J\@"lA:j\@r]
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| ----Humerus (upper arm)
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| ----Lower Arm
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| ----Hand - gyán - geán [J\An]
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| -----Palm - yéna
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| ---Leg - baŋ (bang-) - páinge, háidda [hAJ\@]
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| ----Hip - rωbe - rúaibh
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| ----Knee - nébos - néobhas
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| ----Ankle
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| ----Thigh (upper leg)
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| ----Shin
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| ----Foot - δos (δoi-) - dóigh [dOj]
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| -----Sole - sumba
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| -----Heel
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| -----Ball
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| --Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
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| ---Nail - caŋ (cág-) - chág-
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| ----Fingernail - gyácaŋ (gyácag-)
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| ----Toenail - δoicaŋ (δoicag-)
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| ---Toe - derdon
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| ---Thumb - duntice
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| ---Finger - dún - tún
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| --My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?!
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| ---female - quenwe
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| ----vagina - θeíma (vulg.: morma)
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| ----womb - urwa - urbha
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| ---male - donya
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| ----penis - litto - líott [Lit]
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| ----testicle - byólos (byoloσσ-) - beóllosh
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| -Orifices
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| Yes, e.g. -los < loσσo (sack) in byólos 'testicle' and sádelas 'tear gland'
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| The other body liquids you haven't got mentioned:
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| Are you talking about "trial number"? (A grammatical number for when a noun refers to exactly three items; distinguished from dual (two) and paucal (few).)
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| Actually I planned a third column with a third conlang, another unfinished daughter language of Archeía (I should have written "preview", not "trial")
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| Actually I planned a third column with a third conlang, another unfinished daughter language of Archeía (I should have written "preview", not "trial") but i was too lazy later
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| cromulant wrote:
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| My word for arm is khaib. I'll get back to you on all the others.
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| @Cromulant; Did you get back to us on the others yet? Or, how much of it is available elsewhere? and, if any, where?
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| doctrellor wrote:
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| I have a set of roots, with compounds to attach greater detail, like finger + nail = fingernail or mouth + lower = jaw or head + high = scalp/forehead and so on, so an amalgamation of roots or root/locatives usually does the trick (to get as specific as needed) for the Drem. I'll post my list sometime later/tonight..
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| @Doc; Did you post a list for Drem? Or is one available somewhere else? Thanks.
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| (For Zevino'shoma) This will be different, as they are alien, and somewhat odd in their body structure. I'll come back for the rest later.
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| These are the ones I have words for:
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| Chest, Abdomen, Belly: Shigilalumaga
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| Brain: Shogatu
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| Spleen, Kidney, Liver (all one organ): Shetashu
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| All also do Muphridian, which is closely related to English:
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| I've been brought up with the definition of "choad" or "chode" or however you spell it being "a penis which is wider than it is long".
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| The paltry list of bodyparts in Hantic. I must endevour to expand it.
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| Don't think it has any. But it is a feature often affected by deformities, it seems. A cleft palate may extend the cleft onto the upper lip, thus splitting it along the philtrum (i.e. a harelip), whereas kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome lack the indent entirely. Also, anecdotally, a friend of mine used to have a convex skin-bump thing instead of an indentation (she had it surgically corrected at young age).
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| WOW! Another part of the body we don't need!
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| Of course we need it.
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| See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum for purposes of the philtrum.
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| See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvula for purposes of the uvula.
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| Us most of all... think how unhappy we'd be if nobody could pronounce labials because their lips were too inflexible
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| What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?
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| What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?
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| -Arteries are the blood vessels that pump blood from the heart to the rest of the body, and thus full of freshly oxygenated, bright red bood. Veins take the blood back to the heart, and are full of deoxygenated, purplish blood.
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| -Cartilage is a connective tissue in the body. It's what the soft parts of the nose and ear are made of. Sharks have skeletons made of cartilage instead of bone. When you find some in meat it's called "gristle."
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| -The sclera is the white outer layer of the eye.
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| -The shin is the bony front part of the lower leg.
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| -"Orifice" means any opening in the body, like the mouth, anus, etc.
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| -The rest of your words are names for the teeth: On each side of each row there are, proceeding from front to back, two incisors, the canine (eye tooth), two premolars, and three molars. The third is called the "wisdom tooth."
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| Ok, here's a tricky question*: where's the canthus?
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| WOW! Another part of the body we don't need!
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| Of course we need it.
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| See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum for purposes of the philtrum.
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| See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvula for purposes of the uvula.
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| Thanks! Never knew that!
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| Klit — clitoris
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| Now why would they have borrowed this word?
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| Now why would they have borrowed this word?
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| Same reason why English did? Actually, I was lazy and didn't feel like coining a new word at the time (happens a lot with Terpish).
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| What's the difference between a vein and an artery? Also, I was wondering if someone could tell me what these words mean: gristle/cartilage, sclera, incisor, eyetooth/canine tooth, molar/premolar, shin, orifices? I think you've left out brain. Finnish and Swedish distuingishes between the back and front of the neck. Could you maybe add those, oh and back of the head too?
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| -Arteries are the blood vessels that pump blood from the heart to the rest of the body, and thus full of freshly oxygenated, bright red bood. Veins take the blood back to the heart, and are full of deoxygenated, purplish blood.
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| -Cartilage is a connective tissue in the body. It's what the soft parts of the nose and ear are made of. Sharks have skeletons made of cartilage instead of bone. When you find some in meat it's called "gristle."
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| -The shin is the bony front part of the lower leg.
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| -"Orifice" means any opening in the body, like the mouth, anus, etc.
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| -The rest of your words are names for the teeth: On each side of each row there are, proceeding from front to back, two incisors, the canine (eye tooth), two premolars, and three molars. The third is called the "wisdom tooth."
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| Thanks for the informative answer! The only thing I didn't quite understand was shin. Is it the name of the front part of the bone that goes all the way through your lower leg?
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| In my family, it was always called the "dribble drain", which kind of doesn't make sense, because ... um, gravity goes down, so ... I don't know.
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| I heard that Plato or the Platonists said it was the "cavern angel" telling each newly-reborn soul not to tell any memories of its former lives.
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| But what exactly is the tear gland? I tried looking it up at WP but I couldn't understand the picture.
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| Tears are the watery, salty secretion that keeps the eyes moist. The bulk of the refracting of light during focussing is done by a thin veil of tears; the lens just fine-tunes it. Tears also contain protein (and FAIK other biological ingredients); that is why it is necessary to clean contact lenses once a day.
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| When the eye is irritated the production and flow of tears is increased, to the point that they leak out of the eye; the usual result is to wash out whatever is irritating the eye. When someone weeps, they often over-produce tears this same way.
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| Tear-glands (aka lacrimal glands) are in the upper outer corners of the eyes. In the lower inner corners of the eyes are ducts that ordinarily take tears down into the nose; if the tear-glands aren't overproducing, this is where tears usually are disposed of.
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| And what is meant with bottom and top side? Is it supposed to be the lower and upper half of the body?
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| Just think either "bottom of body" and "top of body", or "lower half of body" and "upper half of body". If you want two pairs of terms, go ahead and provide both. Otherwise take your pick.
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| Museum? Nah; there's no real 'important' information here.
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| Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.
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| Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.
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| Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".
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| Were it a thread about 'how does your language chop up (so to speak) the body .. eg one word for arm+hand etc' then maybe.
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| Feel free to rephrase the question(s) then! Or pose this question, if it's the one you like.
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| I've got this list for a year already, but I still haven't got words for every single body part on it. On the other hand, I felt free to add some items you left out, Tom.
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| I've got this list for a year already, but I still haven't got words for every single body part on it. On the other hand, I felt free to add some items you left out, Tom.
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| I don't know anymore, but I only have your original list. I think I added all those you quoted save the parts of the mouth (except tongue and teeth), portal vein, back of the neck, front of the neck, back of the head, names for teeth, skull and placenta. Quite a lot I didn't add actually :P
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| I just edited the original post and added the shank, the calf, and the buttocks. I didn't add the ovaries or the prostate. The other things you mentioned three posts ago were already in the list. Some of the names of the teeth are there, too.
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| I just edited the original post and added the shank, the calf, and the buttocks. I didn't add the ovaries or the prostate. The other things you mentioned three posts ago were already in the list. Some of the names of the teeth are there, too.
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| http://benung.freehostia.com/files/bodyparts.pdf My list, so far | | http://benung.freehostia.com/files/bodyparts.pdf My list, so far |
| Very complete! Thanks. I hope many people take a look at it. | | Very complete! Thanks. I hope many people take a look at it. |
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| http://benung.freehostia.com/files/bodyparts.pdf My list, so far
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| Very complete! Thanks. I hope many people take a look at it.
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| Very complete! Thanks. I hope many people take a look at it.
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| I tried to take a look, but I keep getting the Freehostia home page. *is puzzled*
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| If I click on the link that happens to me too; but if I copy the URL and past it in the address window I see Guitarplayer's PDF like I want to.
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| That still leaves me puzzled, but I get to see the PDF so I can stand it.
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| If I click on the link that happens to me too; but if I copy the URL and past it in the address window I see Guitarplayer's PDF like I want to.
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| That still leaves me puzzled, but I get to see the PDF so I can stand it.
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| I'm only familiar with 32 points. I know actual helmsman's binnacles had half-points and quarter-points, but I thought they had only 32 named points; NEWS (4), NE NW SE SW (4 more), XXY and YXY (, X by Y and XY by X and XY by Y (16), for a total of 32.
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| For the Kigdatsi native language I can invent short names for some extremity points, the font/back distinction, some horizontal "slices", and some lines through the body. It should then be possible to derive names for many different parts of the body using a system of dividing up, like compass direction names use.
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The "Body Parts in Your Conlangs" template was created by Tom H. Chappell on Oct 26, 2006. It is used to organize biological vocabulary for several conlangs.
Template
Body
- Blood vessel
- Artery
- Vein
- Material of which it is composed
- Bone
- Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?)
- Skin
- Muscle
- Fat
- Blood
- Trunk (torso)
- Chest
- Heart
- Lung
- Abdomen or Belly
- Stomach
- Liver
- Spleen
- Intestines
- Waist
- Neck
- Extremity
- Head
- Hair
- Ear
- Earhole
- Earlobe?
- Eye
- Eyeball
- Iris
- Pupil
- Sclera
- Eyebrow
- Eyelid
- Eyelash
- Eye socket
- Tear gland
- Nose
- Nostril
- Mouth
- Jaw
- Maxilla (upper jaw)
- Mandible (lower jaw)
- Tooth
- Incisor
- Eyetooth or Canine Tooth
- Molar (and/or premolar?)
- Tongue
- Limb
- Arm
- Shoulder
- Elbow
- Wrist
- Humerus (upper arm)
- Lower Arm
- Hand
- Palm
- Leg
- Hip
- buttock (if different)
- Knee
- Ankle
- Thigh (upper leg)
- Shank (lower leg, between knee and ankle)
- Shin
- Calf
- Foot
- Sole
- Heel
- Ball
- Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
- Nail
- Fingernail
- Toenail
- Toe
- Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)
- Pinky toe or little toe
- Other individual toes?
- Thumb
- Thumbnail
- Finger
- Index finger
- Pinky finger
- Middle finger
- Ring finger
- My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?!
- female
- vagina
- womb
- male
- penis
- testicle
- Side
- Back
- Front
- Left
- Right
- Bottom (lower)
- Top (upper)
- Orifices
- anus
- urethral meatus?
- vagina was covered under "genitalia".
- mouth and nose and ear were covered under "head". So was "eye", but your conlang might not consider that an orifice.
Things to consider
- Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes?
- Or as verbs or adjectives or prepositions or conjunctions or pronouns?
(I left out "adverbs" and "interjections". I assume the "interjections" part is "yes", because some of these are probably good curse-words. I can't think how to make one of these body-part nouns into an adverb, though.)
- What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of life?
Popular answers are the liver (hence the name "liver") and the heart.
- What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of emotion?
Popular answers are the stomach, the guts, and the heart.
- What bodypart does your conculture think is the seat of consciousness?
Popular answers are the eyes and the heart; but modern Western culture says "the brain".
Things included and things omitted on purpose, with reasons
I tried to leave out most things that were microscopic (like the Islets), and most things that were not visible on the surface (like the Islets).
(I also left out the Organ of Zuckerkandl, which resides in the arch of the aorta. Nobody seems to know what it's for.)
(And I left out the voicebox or larynx, and other parts of the speech system. Perhaps I should have included some of them. Others are welcome to, if they feel it would be good to do so.)
Bones and blood and stomachs-and-or-intestines and hearts and wombs, however, seemed like I should include them.
Blood is often visible on the surface, after a minor injury.
If bone is visible on the surface, a major injury has occurred; but one can detect the bone from the outside by touch.
Hearts move and make a sound detectable from the outside.
The same is true of the stomach-and-or-intestines; furthermore the owner of the stomach can often tell when it's empty, or when it wants to operate in reverse (the name of that sensation is "nausea").
Wombs have visible results; and their owners know what's going on in them. (Actually, I've been kicked awake by an unborn baby whose mother slept through the kick!)
As for livers and spleens and sweetbreads and so on: They are often referred to in old-fashioned conversations preceding the advent of modern medicine; I assume that the practice of butchery, together with those of surgery and veterinary and medicine, familiarized people with some of them. In some Native North American languages, for instance, an automobile's battery is referred to as its "liver".
It would be reasonable for some conlangs not to have all of these, and for others to have body-part terms in addition to these.
(Unknown conlang 1)
Responses here.
Pabappa
List here.
Unknown conlang 2
Responses here.
Zevino'shoma
Responses here.
Muphridian
Responses here.
Unknown conlang 3
Responses here.
Mèlw
Author: radagast
Seat of life: blood
Seat of emotion: stomach
Seat of conciousness: eyes
Mèlw doesn't allow bodypart affixation; it only incorporates patients.
Palhàwan
Responses here.
Gevey
Responses here.
Neo-Khitanese (Kilda)
Responses here.
Ttuan
Responses here.
Muphridian 2
I don't have much of the history of the Muphridian language (or the Muphridians), but there is a general overview there of the history, and the language here: http://scjuwiki.azivelar.net/wiki/Muphridian_Language. (under construction)
Qatama
Qatama: English:
anaq head
anuq ear(s)
ongo eye(s)
okota heart
toru back
taruya hip/waist
tara belly/stomach
utar chest/breast
nogra feet/toes
anuja leg
udan hand/arm
qongo joint
gan bone
gua mouth/face
ogua facial hair
uha skin
udanju fingers/knuckles
dong nose
g'tla shoulder
qono muscle
anaqra neck
guata teeth
guaja tongue
unuq hair
-Khang
Beftokan
Beftokan's still a new conlang (only about 150 words in the lexicon to date), but it does have most of the points of consonantal articulation noted (linguistics is a living science in Beftok), so I'll list them here:
lip - èman [e_M.ma_Ln] (paucal: kaèman)
tooth - ghîš [GI_Hs`]
tongue - šuun [s`u:n]
alveolar ridge - gìkew [gi_M.ke_L.M_L]
palate - bugháth [bu_L.Ga_Ht_h]
velum - ughom [u_L.GO_Lm]
uvula - bháplekh [Ba_H.plE_Lx]
glottis - durtan [du_L4.ta_Ln]
All body parts, including these, are considered to be part of the "human" noun class, and will decline according to it once I post the grammar.
unknown conlang 4
Joined: 07 May 2005
Location: Aotearoa
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs
Body Kanana
-Blood vessel aka
--Artery akala
--Vein akawana
-Material of which it is composed
--Bone ohakao
--Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) lahala
--Skin lamaha
--Muscle kako
--Fat lapala
--Blood koko
-Trunk (torso) koho
--Chest hahaka
---Heart 'alona
---Lung lana
--Abdomen or Belly po'o
---Stomach 'ahakalo
---Liver lawala
---Spleen hapalana
---Intestines po'oloko
--Waist hopa
-Neck na'a
-Extremity
--Head opo'o
---Hair ma'awa
---Ear kalana
Earhole
Earlobe?
---Eye 'alo
Eyeball
Iris
Pupil
Sclera
Eyebrow
Eyelid
Eyelash
Eye socket
Tear gland
---Nose aho
Nostril
---Mouth waha
Jaw
Maxilla (upper jaw)
Mandible (lower jaw)
Tooth
Incisor
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth
Molar (and/or premolar?)
Tongue
--Limb
---Arm lana
Shoulder
Elbow
Wrist
Humerus (upper arm)
Lower Arm
Hand
Palm
---Leg wawa
Hip
Knee
Ankle
Thigh (upper leg)
Shin
Foot
Sole
Heel
Ball
--Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
---Nail
Fingernail
Toenail
---Toe
Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe)
Pinky toe or little toe
Other individual toes?
---Thumb
Thumbnail
---Finger
Index finger
Pinky finger
Middle finger
Ring finger
--genitalia
---female
vagina kala
womb halapapa
---male
penis ola
testicle paopao
-Side kaha
--Back mola
--Front moa
--Left maoa
--Right makao
--Bottom (lower) lalo
--Top (upper) lona
--anus anoho
Sdannískr
Arunaza
Tšur
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
Location: Nouvelle Angleterre
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:26 am Post subject:
Sdannískr
Lihhámr (body)
-Flǽskr (flesh)
--Bǽnr (bone)
--Flǽskr (flesh)
--Kríǥr (strength--muscle)
--Tálgr (fat)
--Bloðís (blood)
-Búlr (trunk, usually of a tree, but also a term for torso)
--Bármr (chest)
---Hǽrto (heart)
---Lúnǥwr (lung)
---Brýstr (breast)
--Hrǽfr (abdomen)
--Gérþ (waist)
-Hálsr (neck)
-Strǽkætiwr (limbs, lit. "extendeds")
--Hǿvuð (head)
---Hǽrr (hair)
---Ǿro (ear)
---Ǿǥa (eye)
Bréhwo (eyelash)
---Snútr (nose)
---Múnþr (mouth)
Kǿko (jaw)
Tánþr (tooth)
Túngo (tongue)
--Lím (limb)
---Ármr (harm)
Sklúðro (shoulder)
Wrístr (wrist)
Múndr (hand)
Lófr (palm)
---Hýpr (hip)
---Kníw (knee)
---Ánkulwr (ankle)
---Þýhr (thigh)
---Skíno (shin)
---Fót (foot)
Lǽstr (sole)
Hahílr (heel)
--Fíngrr (toe or thumb or finger)
---Tǽhwo (toe)
---Ðúmo (thumb)
--Grúnd (groin)
--Fúlwatos (genitals/groin area, lit. "hiddens")
---Blédr (bladder)
---Ársr (butt)
Arskúlr (anus)
---Kwénir (woman)
Slít (vagina)
Wámb (womb)
---Mánnr (man)
Sǽkkr (scrotum)
Fýrnr (penis)
Bállukr (testicle)
-Síðo (side)
--Hrýng (back)
--Fǿro (front)
--Hlǿmr (left)
--Ríhtr (right)
--Bóð (bottom)
Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea
Waldkater
Tšur
Joined: 15 Oct 2002
Location: Leipzig
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Body Parts In Your Conlangs
English - Archeía - Séillethear Chéighea - Trial: Sorosya Cheía
Body - elwer - ellor
-Blood vessel - uía - clœya
--Artery - súloŋ
--Vein - coluía ("bluish blood vessel")
-Material of which it is composed
--Bone - σá (σaxx-)/ σaxxode - shacchod
--Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) - δoσσa - dóssha
--Skin - sár (sarc-)/ sarca - chámha ["xA:w@]
--Muscle - deuma - tóimma
--Fat - gyom (gyób-) - ceóimb [cOmj]
--Blood - sur (surg-) - tía [ci:@]
-Trunk (torso)
--Chest - ámos
---Heart - céo - chéomh [CE:w]
---Lung - sválode - sbállod
--Abdomen or Belly - lomme - lóimm
---Stomach - byallo - beáll
---Liver - bóyar - póughar
---Spleen - quellego
---Pancreas - felgeustar
---Intestines - zoibe, unyode - dsóibe [dzObj@]
--Waist
-Neck - dyalle - áirdeall [Ar\J\6l]
-Extremity
--Head - oan (oand-) - lúivan ["lu:vj@n], mhand [wAn]
---Hair - fille - híll
---Ear - lωm (lωv-) - lúabh ["lu:@v]
Earhole
Earlobe? - tulma - tsulma
---Eye - sáde - sáitt [sac]
Eyeball - sassum (eye ball)
Iris - tiŋyen - tsínge [tSINj@]
Pupil - marya - máira ["mA:r\@]
Sclera
Eyebrow - círes (círeθ-) - chíreth
Eyelid - fánes (fáneθ-) - fáinneth
Eyelash - satwaco - sátmhag
Eye socket - sattuce
Tear gland - sádelos (sadeloσσ-)
---Nose - tús (túy-) - áippeg
Nostril - túyoce - tsúghog
---Mouth - beuta - tsúiga
Jaw - vaugo - vóugh
Maxilla (upper jaw) - arvaugo
Mandible (lower jaw) - survaugo
Tooth - náŋ (nág-) - nág
Incisor - ctainaŋ (cteinag-)
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth - sηnaŋ (sηnag-)
Molar (and/or premolar?) - aunaŋ (aunag-)
Tongue - maiga - máigga
--Limb
---Arm - lámo - láom
Shoulder - marθa - mártha [mArh@]
Elbow - láδer - láidher ["lA:j\@r\]
Wrist - gyalláδer - gealláidher [J\@"lA:j\@r]
Humerus (upper arm)
Lower Arm
Hand - gyán - geán [J\An]
Palm - yéna
---Leg - baŋ (bang-) - páinge, háidda [hAJ\@]
Hip - rωbe - rúaibh
Knee - nébos - néobhas
Ankle
Thigh (upper leg)
Shin
Foot - δos (δoi-) - dóigh [dOj]
Sole - sumba
Heel
Ball
--Digit (toe or thumb or finger)
---Nail - caŋ (cág-) - chág-
Fingernail - gyácaŋ (gyácag-)
Toenail - δoicaŋ (δoicag-)
---Toe - derdon
---Thumb - duntice
---Finger - dún - tún
--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?!
---female - quenwe
vagina - θeíma (vulg.: morma)
womb - urwa - urbha
---male - donya
penis - litto - líott [Lit]
testicle - byólos (byoloσσ-) - beóllosh
-Orifices
--anus - roξo
Does your conlang, or do your conlangs, use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes?
Yes, e.g. -los < loσσo (sack) in byólos 'testicle' and sádelas 'tear gland'
The other body liquids you haven't got mentioned:
urine - fulbis
pus - peugema
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Yuiyo
-Klaivas-
Šalea
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Location: Ebrauc
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject:
Ooo, I forgot this thread existed! Please find enclosed (sic) the Yuiyo words for various body parts!
Head - dú
Nose - amar
Eye - škíol
Mouth - armu
Ear - níu
Chin - va
Cheeks (and side of neck) - súdd
Throat / Neck - damá
Shoulder - issun
Chest / Stomach - núa
Sides - gatod
Back - rammrót
Hip / Waist - fúv
Arm / Leg - skaro
Back of arm / Back of leg - orga
Palm of hand / Sole of foot - ét
Back of hand / Top (?) of foot - tull
Finger / Toe - ram
Knee / Elbow - aitait
Flaccid penis - pelúa
Erect penis - lakkuš
Scrotum / Testes - ssap
'Gooch' - emrát
Vagina - tlaš a feu
Anus - tlaš
Buttock - mappíok
Hantic
Amsel
Ur
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
Location: Seattle
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:28 am Post subject:
The paltry list of bodyparts in Hantic. I must endevour to expand it.
Head kaif
Hand kamr
Eye axr
Tongue lis
Cénárol
mavonduri
Endi
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject:
Cénárol
nava- foot (pl. navam)*
paldo- hand (pl. paldom)*
qar'ta- finger
hir'da- head
ristai- arm (pl. ristím)**
nif- leg (pl. nífu)*
- NOTE: These terms are pluralized in the dual form only, unless when referenced in a group of people
- NOTE: Cénárol sound rule- ai>í
Terpish
Eddy
Šalea
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
Location: In the middle of the American empire
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:
Here are the words for body parts I have for Terpish so far:
Bol — belly
Jok — eye
Klit — clitoris
Kof — head
Kor — heart
Liöshan — brain
Mumbe — butt
Piej — foot
Naturally, the Terps understand biology well enough to understand the appropriate place for the seat of emotion and consciousness (the brain).
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Zali
Imralu
Šalea
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
Location: here
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:
In Zali ["Zali]
Body tem [tEm]
-Blood vessel
--Artery
--Vein
-Material of which it is composed pu [pu] (just means "stuff", "material")
--Bone zaik [Zajk]
--Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?)
--Skin
--Muscle mad [mad]
--Fat
--Blood eik [Ejk]
-Trunk (torso) jul [dZUl]
--Chest bus [bUS]
---Heart
---Lung
--Abdomen or Belly taun [tawn]
---Stomach
---Liver
---Spleen
---Intestines
--Waist edil ["EdIl]
-Neck stiv [StIv]
-Extremity
--Head pok [pOk]
---Hair iki ["iki] (= hair on head), tal [tal] (= hair on body, fur, general word for hair)
---Ear cok [tSOk]
Earhole cokdvad ["tSOkdvad]
Earlobe?
---Eye og [Og]
Eyeball ogwel ["OgwEl]
Iris
Pupil ognol ["OgnOl] (= "eyeblack")
Sclera ogaigu ["Ogajgu] (= "eyewhite")
Eyebrow
Eyelid
Eyelash ogtal ["Ogtal] (= "eyehair")
Eye socket ogdvad ["Ogdvad] (= "eyehole")
Tear gland
---Nose penk [pENk]
Nostril penkdvad ["pENkdvad]
---Mouth sab [Sab] (= externally visible part of the mouth, ie. the lips), cik [tSIk] (= oral cavity)
Jaw
Maxilla (upper jaw)
Mandible (lower jaw)
Tooth (!I think I had a word for this, but lost it when I lost my dictionary)
Incisor
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth
Molar (and/or premolar?)
Tongue lamil ["lamIl]
--Limb
---Arm cad [tSad]
Shoulder zut [ZUt]
Elbow cadwelik ["tSadwElIk] (= "armjoint")
Wrist logwelik ["lOgwElIk] (= "handjoint")
Humerus (upper arm) yalcad ["jaltSad] (= "toparm")
Lower Arm loncad ["lOntSad] (= "bottomarm")
Hand log [lOg]
Palm
---Leg duk [dUk]
Hip pois [pOjS]
Knee dukwelik ["dUkwElIk] (= "legjoint")
Ankle dezwelik ["dEZwElIk] (= "footjoint")
Thigh (upper leg) yalduk ["jaldUk]
Shin hilag ["hilag] (= shin, bony part at front), oboz ["ObOZ] (= calf, muscular part at back), lenduk ["lEndUk] (= "bottomleg")
Foot dez [dEZ]
Sole dezlen ["dEZlEn] (= "footbottom")
Heel
Ball
--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) ix [Its]
---Nail vask [vaSk]
Fingernail log(ix)vask ["lOg(Its)vaSk] (= "hand(digit)nail")
Toenail dez(ix)vask ["dEZ(Its)vaSk] (= "foot(digit)nail")
---Toe dezix ["dEZIts] (= "footdigit")
Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) darix ["dazIts] (= "bigdigit"), dadezix ["dadEZIts] (= "bigfootdigit")
Pinky toe or little toe posxirix ["pOStsizIts] (= "mostlittledigit")
Other individual toes? xidezix ["tsidEZIts] (= "littlefootdigit")
---Thumb zadix ["ZadIts] (= "importantdigit")
Thumbnail zadixvask ["ZadItsvaSk] (= "importantdigitnail")
---Finger logix ["lOgIts]
Index finger
Pinky finger
Middle finger
Ring finger
--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?!
---Female en [En]
vagina munu ["munu]
womb
---male az [aZ]
penis wung [wUN]
testicle
-Side vel
--Back (!don't remember offhand)
--Front (!don't remember offhand)
--Left
--Right
--Bottom (lower) len- ["lEn-]
--Top (upper) yal- ["jal-]
-Orifices
--anus dumfdvad ["dUmfdvad] (= "arsehole")
--urethral meatus?
Other
breast, boob bumba ["bUmba]
arse, buttocks, bum dumf ["dUmf]
skull pokzaik ["pOkZajk] (= "headbone")
As for the other questions - they are much like us, technologically and scientifically advanced, so they know the true function of each organ, but much like us, although they know the true situation, there still remain certain cultural attachments to organs. The heart and guts are the home of the emotions - the heart beats faster with just about any intense emotion, and when it gets even more intense, the stomach aches. Consciousness was associated with the eyes, although it then became associated with the brain because people who had lost their eyes still reported being conscious - the brain was the obvious choice, being behind the eyes, and able to see through them.
Lhueslue
Qwynegold
Gent
Joined: 24 May 2007
Location: Sweden
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:39 am Post subject:
Here are the words in Lhueslue:
Body lu /lu:/ (human), rhu /ɻu:/ (animal)
-Blood vessel ueshie-echul /yʃə:etʃu:l/ (human), ueshie-echurh /yʃə:etʃuɻ/ (animal)
--Artery ueshie-echulxhe /yʃə:etʃulxe:/ (human), ueshie-echurhxhe /yʃə:etʃuɻxe:/ (animal)
--Vein ueshie-echulqe /yʃə:etʃulqe:/ (human), ueshie-echurhqe /yʃə:etʃuɻqe:/ (animal)
-Material of which it is composed
--Bone pujchul /puʒtʃu:l/ (human), pujchurh /puʒtʃu: ɻ/ (animal)
--Gristle or cartilage pubchul /pubtʃu:l/ (human), pubchurh /pubtʃu: ɻ/ (animal)
--Skin xhuchul /xutʃu:l/ (human, homonynous with front side of body), xhuchurh /xutʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
--Muscle euchul /eutʃu:l/ (human), euchurh /eutʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
--Fat bee-chulu /bɛ:tʃulu:/ (human), bee-churhu /bɛ:tʃuɻu:/ (animal)
--Blood ueshie /yʃə:/
-Trunk (torso) yuchulu /jutʃulu:/ (human), xhuchurhu /xutʃuɻu:/ (animal)
--Chest yuyuchulu /jujutʃulu:/ (human), yuxhuchurhu /juxutʃuɻu:/ (animal)
---Heart ije /iʒe:/
---Lung hichul /hitʃu:l/ (human), hichurh /hitʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
--Abdomen or Belly zuyuchulu /zujutʃulu:/ (human, same as stomach), zuxhuchurhu /zuxutʃuɻu:/ (animal, same as stomach)
---Stomach zuyuchulu /zujutʃulu:/ (human, same as abdomen and belly), zuxhuchurhu /zuxutʃuɻu:/ (animal, same as abdomen and belly)
---Liver ueshie-juch /yʃə:ʒutʃ/
---Spleen tyueshie-juch /tjyʃə:ʒutʃ/
---Intestines lhunyejuch /ðˡunjeʒutʃ/
--Waist ungtudlu /uŋtudlu:/ (human), ungtudrhu /uŋtudɻu:/ (animal)
-Neck huzchul /huztʃu:l/ (human), huzchurh /huztʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
-Extremity chulu /tʃulu:/ (human, same as limb and bodypart), churhu /tʃuɻu:/ (animal, same as limb and bodypart)
--Head chyuel /tʃjy:l/ (human), chyuerh /tʃjy:ɻ/ (animal)
---Hair bochyul /botʃju:l/ (human), borh /bo:ɻ/ (animal, actually fur)
---Ear su /su:/
Earhole sujung-ie /suʒuŋə:/
Earlobe zungsu /zuŋsu:
---Eye wu /wu:/
Eyeball wubuzuytud /wubuzujtu:d/
Iris wu-wuech /wu:wytʃ/
Pupil wu-miewuech /wu:məwytʃ/
Sclera wu-fwueh /wu:fwyh/
Eyebrow boywu /bojwu:/
Eyelid wuyeung /wujeuŋ/
Eyelash bowu /bowu:/
Eye socket wujung-iechyuel /wuʒuŋətʃjy:l/ (human), wujung-iechyuerh /wuʒuŋətʃjy:ɻ/ (animal)
Tear gland -
---Nose nyu /nju:/
Nostril nyujung-ie /njuʒuŋə:/
---Mouth znu /znu:/
Jaw zuchyul /zutʃju:l/ (human), zuchyurh /zutʃju:ɻ/ (animal)
Maxilla (upper jaw) yuzuchyul /juzutʃju:l/ (human), yuzuchyurh /juzutʃju:ɻ/ (animal)
Mandible (lower jaw) zuchyul /zutʃju:l/ (human, same as jaw), zuchyurh /zutʃju:ɻ/ (animal, same as jaw)
Tooth poznu /poznu:/
Incisor poznuxhu /poznuxu:/
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth poznupú /poznupǔ:/
Molar poznutud /poznutu:d/ (both molar and premolar), qupoznutud /qupoznutu:d/ (molar only)
Premolar xhupoznutud /xupoznutu:d/
Tongue nub /nub/
--Limb/bodypart chulu /tʃulu:/ (human, same as extremity), churhu /tʃuɻu:/ (animal, same as extremity)
---Arm zyux /zjuχ/
Shoulder xa /χa:/
Elbow jungzyux /ʒuŋzjuχ/
Wrist xua /χua/
Humerus (upper arm) yux /juχ/
Lower Arm zux /zuχ/
Hand xu /χu:/
Palm xuz /χuz/
---Leg zechul /zetʃu:l/ (human), zechurh /zetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Hip azuchulu /azutʃulu:/ (human), azuchurhu /azutʃuɻu:/ (animal)
Knee jungzechul /ʒuŋzetʃu:l/ (human), jungzechurh /ʒuŋzetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Ankle chae-pyuzechul /tʃæ:pjuzetʃu:l/ (human), chae-pyuzechurh /tʃæ:pjuzetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Thigh (upper leg) yuzechul /juzetʃu:l/ (human), yuzechurh /juzetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Shin -
Foot chae-zechul /tʃæ:zetʃu:l/ (human), chae-zechurh /tʃæ:zetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Sole chae-zuzechul /tʃæ:zuzetʃu:l/ (human), chae-zuzechurh /tʃæ:zuzetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Heel chae-quzechul /tʃæ:quzetʃu:l (human), chae-quzechurh /tʃæ:quzetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Ball -
--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) chochulu /tʃotʃulu:/ (human), chochurhu /tʃotʃuɻu:/ (animal)
---Nail puchochulu /putʃotʃulu:/ (human); puchochurhu /putʃotʃuɻu:/ (animal, also means claw)
Fingernail puchoxu /putʃoχu:/
Toenail puchozechul /putʃozetʃu:l/ (human)
---Toe chozechul /tʃozetʃu:l/ (human), chozechurh /tʃozetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) ochozechul /otʃozetʃu:l/ (human), ochozechurh /otʃozetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Pinky toe or little toe oe-chozechul /ø:tʃozetʃu:l/ (human), oe-chozechurh /ø:tʃozetʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
Second toe chozechulowu /tʃozetʃulowu:/ (human), chozechurhowu /tʃozetʃuɻowu:/ (animal)
Third toe chozechuloqaxh /tʃozetʃuloqa:χ/ (human), chozechurhoqaxh /tʃozetʃuɻoqa:χ/ (animal)
Fourth toe chozechulo-rhuength /tʃozetʃulo:ɻyŋθ/ (human), chozechurho-rhuength /tʃozetʃuɻo:ɻyŋθ/ (animal)
---Thumb choxutud /tʃoχutu:d/ (human), choxu-oeue /tʃoχu:øy/ (animal)
Thumbnail puchoxutud /putʃoχutu:d/
---Finger choxu /tʃoχu:/
Index finger choxuowu /tʃoχuowu:/
Pinky finger oe-choxu /ø:tʃoχu:/
Middle finger choxuoqaxh /tʃoχuoqa:x/
Ring finger choxuo-rhuength /tʃoχuoɻyŋθ/
--genitalia vichul /vitʃu:l/ (human), vichurh /vitʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
---female ci /ɕi:/
vagina ciljung-ie /ɕilʒuŋə:/ (human), cirhjung-ie /ɕiɻʒuŋə:/ (animal)
womb iájung-ie /iǎ:ʒuŋə:/
---male ri /ri:/
penis vichri /vitʃri:/
testicle buzuytudri /buzujtudri:/
-Side tud /tu:d/
--Back quchul /qutʃu:l/ (human), yuchurh /jutʃu:ɻ/ (animal)
--Front xhuchul /xutʃu:l/ (human, homonymous with skin), zuchurh /zutʃu:ɻ/ (animal, actually underside)
--Left tu /tu:/
--Right du /du:/
--Lower zuchulu (human) /zutʃulu:/, quchurhu /qutʃuɻu:/ (animal)
--Upper yuchulu /jutʃulu:/ (human, same as torso), xhuchurhu /xutʃuɻu:/ (animal, same as torso)
-Orifices chulujung-ie /tʃuluʒuŋə:/ (human), churhujung-ie /tʃuɻuʒuŋə:/ (animal)
--anus jung-ieqae /ʒuŋəqæ:/
--urethral meatus vichrijung-ie /vitʃriʒuŋə:/ (male), ciljungjung-ie /ɕilʒuŋʒuŋə:/ (human, female) cirhjungjung-ie /ɕiɻʒuŋʒuŋə:/ (animal, female)
Heh! This is probably the only language that has three words for urethral meatus.
But what exactly is the tear gland? I tried looking it up at WP but I couldn't understnad the picture. And what is meant with bottom and top side? Is it supposed to be the lower and upper half of the body?
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Aisling
Iseléaku
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Body parts
My small dictionary has some basic body parts but nothing specific like artery.
ANKLE = TĀMA
ARM = RŌTA
BLOOD = PĀTA
CHEST = ShŌMĀ
ELBOW = JeĪTŌ
etc, etc
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guitarplayer wrote:
http://benung.freehostia.com/files/bodyparts.pdf My list, so far
Very complete! Thanks. I hope many people take a look at it.
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Izo
Šalea
Joined: 04 Apr 2004
Location: Catalonia
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject:
Hel·lerà / Helleran
Body tol, estou
Blood guès
Blood vessel cabinyol guesetz “blood vessel”
Artery maxarva
Vein ôued
Bone tot
Cartilage martel•let
Skeleton gargamol, gaugamol
Skin fiu
Muscle rambe
Fat (corporal) lhud
Tendon tirant
Head pot, tuc, tuys, syet, arsyet (m), tuche, tutze (f)
Hair togès
Hair (a fiber) bli
Skull golag (m/f)
cranium raz
Neck lleg, nyoc
Ear onze, osye, oge
Earhole bosit na s’onze “hole of the ear”
Earlobe lhob na s’onze “lobe of the ear”
Eye oc, oig, uoc
Iris gavi
Pupil chelandé
Sclera bel na s’oc “white of the eye”; cýncolis (neolog)
Eyebrow tirse
Eyelid pedillou
Eyelash goume
Eye socket bou na s’oc “socket of the eye”
Tear gland dragole
Nose per
Nostril bosit nas per “hole of the nose”
Mouth tamà
Cheek guys
Jaw radagame (sg) or radagames (pl)
Maxilla (upper jaw) berosti
Mandible (lower jaw) carmazzi
Tooth gam
Incisor cartalh, gartalh “central incisor”; cartalet, gortalet “lateral incisor”
Eyetooth or Canine tooth anhac
Molar cheral “molar, second molar”; cheraló “first molar”
Tongue lheme. But "language, idiom" is lhambe
Lip jami
Trunk bros
Chest tor
Abdomen mablada
Belly beli
Lower abdomen naig beli “lower belly”; sabel
Heart lhò
Lung beloi
Stomach mansaghe
Liver sagé
Spleen vèdem
Intestines ganyalons (pl.)
Extremity, limb estighiu; espadelhe
Waist caradanç
Pelvis cadanche or tot nas caradanç “bone of the waist”
Buttock dabons (pl.) / dabó, bono and guys nas sat “cheek of the butt”
Bum, arse, butt sat
Hip bemuc
Leg (from hip to ankle) gambe
Thigh (upper leg, from hip to knee) gamays
Knee golde
Kneecap, patella gavanhol
Shank (lower leg, from knee to ankle) garme
Shin astanye
Calf tonsim na s’astanye “doughy part of the shin”
Ankle poghet
Foot pedh, madà
Heel garou
Sole mad
Shoulder espambelh (traditional), espemble (neolog)
Arm (from shoulder to wrist) ram
Arm (from shoulder to elbow) ramec
Elbow ajoc
Arm (from elbow to wrist) ramell
Wrist arbou
Hand badh
Palm pançou
Digit gartembi, cartempe (neolog)
Finger, toe ghez (traditional)
Toe (foot digit) ghez nas pedh “finger of the foot”
Finger (hand digit) ghez nas badh “finger of the hand”
Ball tonsim nas ghez “doughy part of the finger”
Thumb tigarembi, tigampó, garampó
Index finger ghez casarteu “managing/governative/guiding finger”
Middle finger ghez perís “middle finger”
Ring finger ghez nigançant “dependent finger”
Little finger ghez polzuc “small finger”
Genitalia zinyaroncs
Vagina begane
Womb gameu
Penis gozzi (traditional); felghe (neolog)
Testicle galló
Anus guada
Urethral meatus dragavàrie
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Does Helleran use any of these terms, or reduced forms of them, as affixes?
Helleran has affixes for different bodyparts or body materials/substances to create neologisms (although I must work on them).
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Or as verbs or adjectives or prepositions or conjunctions or pronouns?
Some verbs are derived from the words for heart, skin, ear, etc. Many bodypart names have adjectival forms.
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What bodypart does the Megadelanian civilization think is the seat of life?
Not a bodypart but a microscopic life-form present in all cells.
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What bodypart does the Megadelanian civilization think is the seat of emotion?
The heart, the diafragma, the skin and the stomach. But it really depends on the emotion. From the point of view of the Megadelanian civilisation all four bodyparts play some role in any emotion, although only one has a main role; it is said that that one is the leading organ.
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What bodypart does the Megadelanian civilization think is the seat of consciousness?
The soul. From the point of view of the Megadelanian civilization it isn’t a bodypart but the essence of the living body.
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Rav Shimon
Endi
Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Sydney
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:25 am Post subject:
TomHChappell wrote:
simon.clarkstone wrote:
I was struck by inspiration about this a while back, after seeing a tea-towel that had a 64-point compass rose on it:
I'm only familiar with 32 points. I know actual helmsman's binnacles had half-points and quarter-points, but I thought they had only 32 named points; NEWS (4), NE NW SE SW (4 more), XXY and YXY (, X by Y and XY by X and XY by Y (16), for a total of 32.
North
North-one-quarter-east
North-by-east
North-north-east-one-quarter-north
North-north-east
North-north-east-one-quarter-east
North-east-by-north
North-east-one-quarter-north
North-east
&c
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TomHChappell
Šalea
Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Location: South-East Michigan
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject:
Rav Shimon wrote:
North
North-one-quarter-east
North-by-east
North-north-east-one-quarter-north
North-north-east
North-north-east-one-quarter-east
North-east-by-north
North-east-one-quarter-north
North-east
&c
Hmm. I thought halfway between North and North-by-East was "North-a-half-East" rather than "North-a-quarter-East". And so on. You are making the (N,S,E,W,NE,NW,SE,SW)-by-(N,S,E,W) be half-points instead of points.
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Rav Shimon
Endi
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Location: Sydney
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:
North, north-north-east, north-east &c are the sixteen primary points of a compass. Halfway between north and north-north-east is north-by-east (that is, the next half-point east of north), and half of that (half of half being a quarter) is north-one-qaurter-east (said point being one quarter of the way from north to the next point in an easterly direction).
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simon.clarkstone
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Joined: 21 Sep 2005
Location: England
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:07 am Post subject:
TomHChappell wrote:
simon.clarkstone wrote:
I was struck by inspiration about this a while back, after seeing a tea-towel that had a 64-point compass rose on it:
I'm only familiar with 32 points.
I could have been wrong about that, but the details don't matter here.
TomHChappell wrote:
simon.clarkstone wrote:
For the Kigdatsi native language I can invent short names for some extremity points, the font/back distinction, some horizontal "slices", and some lines through the body. It should then be possible to derive names for many different parts of the body using a system of dividing up, like compass direction names use.
For a solid I haven't worked it out or thought it out; I can see 48 (in rectangular "xyz" coordinates, the coordinates' absolute values could be in 6 orders, and the coordinates could come in 8 combinations of positive and negative), but can't be certain more wouldn't be possible.
For instance if spherical coordinates (longitude and latitude) are used, and my idea of "16 points is natural in a plane" is true, there might be 128 "points" on a sphere (8 latitudes x 16 longitudes).
If a "spherical coordinate system" is used, there needs to be some way to indicate or suggest distance from the center. (If a "cylindrical coordinate system" is used, it would be "distance from the pole" that would need to be suggested or indicated.) There'd have to be at least two degrees (body vs extremity), perhaps three (body vs limb vs hand-or-foot-or-digit) or four ("body" might come in two grades, core vs "rind" or some such); possibly a human language might have five or six, I'd have to think about that; a non-human system might have more than six, or be likelier than a human system to have more than three.
The system would necessarily be as irregular and wonky as the body is. Fortunately, their limbs all have the same basic structure, so analogising could reduce the set of needed roots. (It is not the same as the pentadactyl limb system.)
TBH I am not sure how I will actually do this, or how similar to the compass system it would actually be, though cylindrical co-ordinates look promising. I mean that (e.g.) there would be no root for "elbow", but something derived from "wrist" and "shoulder". And "knee" and one of the wing-joints would be the same word, with just one part changed because they are on different limbs. Or you could refer to (e.g.) "the bottom half of the upper-right quadrant of your back" in a simple way.
TomHChappell wrote:
simon.clarkstone wrote:
Such a system would be non-natural and "logical", but that is just what I want in my case.
Are your Kigdatsi human?
No. They are not even evolved, but designed. This makes them odd in many ways, though mostly good ones. It also means I will need terms for secondary brains, telekinesis organs, etc.
TomHChappell wrote:
simon.clarkstone wrote:
People who want systematic body-part names are free to copy or draw inspiration from this system, of course. ...
Thanks; Reptigan might need that, since it's a multi-species society and not every speaker has the same body-plan as every other speaker.
Nice. Not available for inter-conworld cooperation over at conworlds.info are you?
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject:
I wonder what your word for "lap" is, if any. Is it the same as "legs", some sort of phrase, or a totally new word?
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Location: South-East Michigan
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:
Izo wrote:
Hel·lerà / Helleran
---SNIPPED out the meat---
Very interesting, Izo! Thanks.
Izo wrote:
....Helleran has affixes for different bodyparts or body materials/substances to create neologisms (although I must work on them).
....
Some verbs are derived from the words for heart, skin, ear, etc. Many bodypart names have adjectival forms.
....
Not a bodypart but a microscopic life-form present in all cells.
....
The heart, the diafragma, the skin and the stomach. But it really depends on the emotion. From the point of view of the Megadelanian civilisation all four bodyparts play some role in any emotion, although only one has a main role; it is said that that one is the leading organ.
....
The soul. From the point of view of the Megadelanian civilization it isn’t a bodypart but the essence of the living body.
I found these especially interesting.
Zoris wrote:
I wonder what your word for "lap" is, if any. Is it the same as "legs", some sort of phrase, or a totally new word?
I don't think I included "lap" in my original list, did I? Do you think I should? What do others think?
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Izo
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Joined: 04 Apr 2004
Location: Catalonia
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:
TomHChappell wrote:
Izo wrote:
Hel·lerà / Helleran
---SNIPPED out the meat---
Very interesting, Izo! Thanks.
Izo wrote:
[...]
I found these especially interesting.
Thanks to you!
TomHChappell wrote:
Zoris wrote:
I wonder what your word for "lap" is, if any. Is it the same as "legs", some sort of phrase, or a totally new word?
I don't think I included "lap" in my original list, did I? Do you think I should? What do others think?
Why not? I included it in the expansion of the Helleran Lexicon of Human Anatomy, which I will post in this thread as soon as I complete it (what I included on my last post was based on your list): it will include more organs, bodyparts and substances, including the names for all human bones and muscles, and a deep view of every major organ system.
The list, as I will show it, represents the medical knowledge of human anatomy as it was in the time where my novels take place.
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:08 am Post subject:
I'm gonna bump up this thread because I think it's full of valuable information.
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imbecilica
Mey
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:03 am Post subject:
UROBASICAN
Body Corpo
-Blood vessel Vessilo de Sango
--Artery Arterio
--Vein Veîno
-Material of which it is composed
--Bone Oso
--Cartilage Cartilagio
--Skin Pelo
--Muscle Musclo
--Fat Lipido
--Blood Sango
-Trunk (torso) Trongo/Torso
--Chest Caffro
---Heart Coro
---Lung Pomeno
--Abdomen or Belly Abdomeno
---Stomach Estomaco
---Liver Fusjo
---Spleen Kescauro
---Intestines Intesnós
--Waist Dasrão
-Neck Collo
-Extremity
--Head Testo
---Hair Cavero
---Ear Orelo
Earhole Casemo d'Orelo
Earlobe? Lûbe
---Eye Optro
Eyeball Globo d'Optro
Iris Iris
Pupil Pupiro
Sclera Sclera
Eyebrow Sobbrio
Eyelid Pardigo
Eyelash Cyliu
Eye socket Domecco d'Optro
Tear gland Glando dè Plurós
---Nose Neso
Nostril Nestrilo
---Mouth Boco
Jaw Macco
Maxilla (upper jaw) Maxilla
Mandible (lower jaw) Mandiblo
Tooth Dento
Incisor Incisèro
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth Primca dento
Molar (and/or premolar?) Molaro
Tongue Languo
--Limb Omembrio
---Arm Ièbro
Shoulder Costrio
Elbow Vikastrio
Wrist Pristão
Humerus (upper arm) Humerus
Lower Arm L'ièbro surina
Hand Maño
Palm Paumo
---Leg J'azabo
Hip Fahjo
buttock Destro
Knee Noremo
Ankle Cavliniro
Thigh (upper leg) Ecaustro
Shank Shánk
Shin Shimno
Calf Vecravo
Foot Pedio
Sole Sôle
Heel Talono
Ball Balo
--Digit Dijéto
---Nail Otrís
Fingernail Otrís de Dijéto
Toenail Otrís de Puçavo
---Toe Puçavo
Pollex Pollexo
Pinky toe or little toe Granda Puçavo
Other individual toes? None
---Thumb Puço
Thumbnail Otrís de Puço
---Finger Dijéto
Index finger Dijéto Indexo
Pinky finger Dijéto Pestanda
Middle finger Dijéto Midiena
Ring finger Dijéto d'Annilo
---female femaraia
vagina vajno
womb utero
---male maraia
penis peneso/penetraso/pestaso
testicle testicuro
-Side Visjeiro
--Back Destra
--Front Avastra
--Left Gosca
--Right Diréjito
--Bottom (lower) Subina
--Top (upper) Surina
-Orifices Orifiçós
--anus anús
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dinnae
Tšur
Joined: 10 Jan 2007
Location: Elsewhere
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:
Talanese motional/locational/temporal prepositions are derived from body parts or other nouns (note, /a/ is actually more central, and /r/ usually is a tap, but they written as such for the ease of transcription):
My apologies, this was a neat table
In, inside of - Tendet (heart) /ˈtɛndət/
Out, outside of - Twizo (shell, skull) /ˈtwizoʊ/
Around (static) - Natan (skin, bark) /natɔn/
Through (static) - Ped (stick, rod) /pɛd/
On top of, Over (static) - Miye (hair) /ˈmijə/
Above, Over (static) - Aol (cloud) /ɔβ̞͡ɫ/
Underneath - Bundu (underside) /ˈbɵndʊw/
Below - Neeza (grass) /ˈniza/
Beside, Next to - Stabed (arm) /ˈstabəd/
In front of - Danćod (chest) /ˈdɔntɕɔd/
Behind - Kee (back) /k͜xi/
At (in a place; at a moment) - Se /sə/
Over (dynamic) - Meyl (wing) /ˈmɛil/
Under, Before - Asper (water) /ˈaspər/
Through (dynamic), During, While being in - Ense (spear) /ˈɛnsə/
Past, After - Huś (wind) /hʊɕ/
From elsewhere towards here - Sitei (source of river) /ˈsiti/
Towards a specific location Ula (gaze) /ˈʊla/
Away from here - Pridas (buttocks) /ˈpridas/
Alongside - Dedomheyet (lover, lit hand-holder) /dədɔˈmejət/ < relatively recent addition to the pronoun list, con-historically
Off - Away, from touching - Donin (fall) /ˈdɔnɘn/
Into (place, area, state) - Raowemelek (field of view) /rɔwəˈmeilək/ (always makes me think 'raw milk')
Out of (place, area, state) - Meśa (leaf bud) /ˈmeiɕa/
Around (dynamic) - Malman (orbit) /ˈmɔlmɔn/, dynamic form of /ˈmɔlma/, hug
Moving around the inside of area or place - Sefse (sniff around) /ˈsɛfsə/
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And no, this is not a confusing system. Talanese requires articles for nouns pretty much all the time (because nouns themselves don't inflect much), and of course prepositions don't have articles. It all came to me when I was reading a rather interesting text that had something to do with perception of time, progress and motion in Mediaeval paintings in the library. Actually, my whole TAM system is built upon inspiration drawn from that!
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As for the body parts list, well... I haven't filled out much, yet, because I've chosen to do it elaborately. I have more words for body parts than there are on this list, but I just haven't reached them yet while filling it out!
Thanks for providing it, though.
Here's what I have so far (.htm converted from .doc) http://www.by002.net/~neuteboo/bodyparts.htm
I'll get there... some time!
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Soap
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Location: Soapatopia
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:20 am Post subject:
This thread is 3 days away from being pruned. I will post in here with a list soon, I promise!
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Location: Catalonia
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:39 am Post subject:
Soap wrote:
This thread is 3 days away from being pruned. I will post in here with a list soon, I promise!
Two weeks ago I saw it was close of being pruned and I thought of posting here to retain it, but finally I forgot to do it... . Luckily I'm not the only one that will post soon here!
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TomHChappell
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:
Might it be a good idea to move this list to someplace it won't expire from, like a wiki? Maybe KneeQuickie? Or frathwiki? Or Chris Bates's linguistics wiki? Or the Conlang Wikia?
Or even L&L Museum?
I can move it to KneeQuickie, I think. I probably need Neek's permission first. Same with the others; maybe I can do it, but I probably need the owners' permission.
But I can't move it to the Museum.
dinnae wrote:
Talanese motional/locational/temporal prepositions are derived from body parts or other nouns (note, /a/ is actually more central, and /r/ usually is a tap, but they written as such for the ease of transcription):
Hey, that's neat! Thanks.
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Soap
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:
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I probably need Neek's permission first.
The KQ is down right now and Neek's doing basic training so he probably wont be able to fix it anytime soon. Nevertheless, I think that in the long term that or some other wiki might be a good idea.
Edit: the KQ is back; it looks like he has monthly bandwidth caps, and he exceeded it in April, but it's back now that it's May.
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langover94
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Location: USA
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject:
Here's some of the body parts that I have in Danšlağ. I haven't really gotten specific with them, although I have got the "main" ones.
body- ri
nose- nopu
ear- yakušu
mouth- slata
eye- aslo
tongue- zabu
teeth- clač
tonsils- kakraku
neck- uxač
hair- skoru
head- baru
shoulder- tuŵ
arm- cura
hand- ğeš
finger- baklaŵer
fingernail- baklaŵeruka
thumb- kuku
chest- orka
breast- ğuš
stomach- iču
lungs- abačeraku
leg- laŵe
ankle- etai
foot- teš
toe- kuklaŵer
toenail- kaklaŵeruka
genital- irosi
penis- bamu
vagina- omaru
That's pretty much all I have so far. I'm sure I'll add more after reading this, though.
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Mecislau
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject:
Novegradian:
Body тѣло tiě́lo
-Blood vessel кревоносита жила krevonósita žíla (lit. "blood-carrying vessel")
--Artery артеря artiéria
--Vein вена véna
-Material of which it is composed матеряљ зе котраево состаулене materiáł ze kotrájevo sostáulene
--Bone кости kósti
--Gristle or cartilage (sp? cartilege?) хреце hréce
--Skin плоти plóti
--Muscle мишка míška
--Fat туке túke
--Blood крев krév
-Trunk (torso) торсе tórse
--Chest грандина дантина grándina dántina (lit. "breast cavity")
---Heart серце siérce
---Lung плуце plúce
--Abdomen or Belly желудок želudók (not distinguished from "stomach")
---Stomach желудок želudók
---Liver етро iétro
---Spleen слезени sleziéni
---Intestines есто iésto
--Waist таля tália
-Neck шия šíja
-Extremity концина kóncina
--Head глава gláva
---Hair власи vlási
---Ear оху óhu
Earhole ---
Earlobe? ---
---Eye око óko
Eyeball оцное яблоко ócnoje iábloko (lit. "eye apple")
Iris оцное кољце ócnoje kołcé (lit. "eye ring")
Pupil оцней дѣде ócnej dědié (lit. "eye child")
Sclera бѣлое око bě́loje óko (lit. "white eye")
Eyebrow брев brév
Eyelid вѣко vě́ko
Eyelash ресница résnica or ресна résna
Eye socket оцней доље ócnej dółe (lit. "eye pit")
Tear gland слезная жлеза sléznaja žlezá
---Nose носе nóse
Nostril носдера nosderá
---Mouth роте róte
Jaw целусти célusti
Maxilla (upper jaw) верхеная целусти verhénaja célusti (lit. "upper jaw")
Mandible (lower jaw) нижная целусти nížnaja célusti (lit. "lower jaw")
Tooth забе zábe
Incisor предней забе prédnej zábe (lit. "foretooth")
Eyetooth or Canine Tooth коле kóle
Molar (and/or premolar?) глауней забе gláunej zábe (lit. "headtooth")
Tongue лизике lizíke
--Limb концина kóncina (not distinguished from "extremity")
---Arm рока róka (not distinguished from "hand")
Shoulder плеѕо pledzó (not distinguished from "upper arm")
Elbow лакоти lákoti
Wrist подруцие podrucjé (lit. "beneath the hand")
Humerus (upper arm) плеѕо pledzó (common usage, not distinguished from "shoulder") or надлакоцие nadlakocjé (lit. "above the elbow", in medical usage)
Lower Arm предлакоцие predlakocjé (largely medical usage)
Hand рока róka (not distinguished from "arm")
Palm длани dláni
---Leg нога nogá (not distinguished from "foot")
Hip ланцо lancó
buttock (if different) заде záde (lit. "rear, behind")
Knee колѣно kolě́no
Ankle глезне glézne
Thigh (upper leg) бедро bedró
Shank (lower leg, between knee and ankle) голени goléni (not distinguished from "shin")
Shin голени goléni (not distinguished from "shank")
Calf лиска líska
Foot нога nogá (common usage, not distinguished from "leg") or пѣхе pě́he (largely medical usage)
Sole позпѣшие pozpěšjé (lit. "under the foot")
Heel пида pidá
Ball ---
--Digit (toe or thumb or finger) порсте pórste
---Nail ноготи nógoti
Fingernail ноготи рокѣ nógoti rókě (lit. "nail on the hand")
Toenail ноготи ногѣ nógoti nogiě́ (lit. "nail on the foot")
---Toe порсте на ногѣ pórste nogiě́ (lit. "digit on the foot")
Pollex ("Great" Toe or Big Toe) палоке ногѣ páloke nogiě́ (lit. "thumb on the foot")
Pinky toe or little toe вейка ногѣ véjka nogiě́ (lit. "little digit on the foot")
Other individual toes? -just find the equivalent finger name and add ногѣ; each finger name can refer to either the finger or the equivalent toe, though in common usage it is generally assumed that the hand is meant unless otherwise specified or context makes it clear
---Thumb палоке páloke
Thumbnail ноготи палокѣ nógoti pálokě (lit. "nail on the thumb")
---Finger порсте pórste (like the individual fingers and toes, this term can refer to either a finger or toe in general, but by default is assumed to refer to the fingers)
Index finger предовоке predovóke (lit. "the front one")
Pinky finger вейка véjka (lit. "little twig")
Middle finger срединоке sredinóke (lit. "the middle one")
Ring finger безимѣнноке beziměnnóke (lit. "the unnamed one", a name you see in Russian and several Uralic languages)
--My god, how could I have left out the genitalia?!?! плодовии plodóviji (lit. "[organs for] producing offspring")
---female женески плодовии žéneski plodóviji
vagina туло túlo
womb трево trévo
---male мужески плодовии múžeski plodóviji
penis шлене šléne (lit. "member")
testicle яйѕок iajdzók (lit. "little egg")
-Side страна straná
--Back заде záde (for the back part of the body) or спина spína (for the actual back/spine)
--Front преде préde
--Left лѣво lě́vo
--Right право právo
--Bottom (lower) низе níze
--Top (upper) верхе vérhe
-Orifices отуоре ótuore
--anus задней отуоре zádnej ótuore (lit. "rear orifice")
--urethral meatus? --
Misc:
--lap љону łónu
--kidney нерка niérka
--bladder пуғири puğíri (lit. "bubble")
--brain мозгѣ mozgiě́
--lip осту óstu
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