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In dal'qörian, a ''prepositional object'', be it a ''pronoun, real noun'' or a ''non tangible noun'' (like a thought, feeling or expression), 'always immediately follows' a nominative pronoun or noun in the subject position (except when the pronoun or noun is followed by a modal or auxiliary verb, then it follows the modal or auxiliary. ''Dalcurian ears are very sensitive to this syntactic rule; forgetting this makes you easily stand out as a non-Dalcurian''):
In Dalcurian, a ''prepositional object'', be it a ''pronoun, real noun'' or a ''non tangible noun'' (like a thought, feeling or expression), 'always immediately follows' a nominative pronoun or noun in the subject position (except when the pronoun or noun is followed by a modal or auxiliary verb, in which case it follows the modal or auxiliary). Dalcurian ears are very sensitive to this syntactic rule and is always (somewhat reluctantly) corrected:


* '''ména, máriÞ érenöra, görøria'''. ''We're going out with them''. (lit: ''We, with them, are going out'').
* '''Ména, máriÞ érenöra, görøria'''. ''We're going out with them''. lit: ''We, with them, are going out''.
* '''Diö nöacr, qiöcra séÞa, icaÞr ela'''. ''You can take everything except for these''. lit: ''You can, except for these, take all''.


* '''diö nöacr, qiöcra séÞa, icaÞr ela'''. ''You can take everything except for these''. (lit: ''You can, except for these, take all'').
However, when a sentence or clause has more than one prepositional word/phrase (pph for short), there is a 'general' word order according to whether the phrase contains:


However, when a sentence or clause has more than one prepositional word/phrase (pph for short), there is a set word order according to whether the phrase contains:
Adverbs of time-these go first.<BR/>Pronouns, people names-these go second.<BR/>Nouns, thoughts, ideas-these go third<BR/>Places, areas, direction-these go last.
 
ː Adverbs of time-these always go first.<BR/>ːPronouns, people names-these go second. (accusative)<BR/>ːNon-tangible nouns, thoughts, ideas-these go third<BR/>ːplaces, areas, direction-these go last.


'''Example 1:'''
'''Example 1:'''


* '''lintöni sol, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, eÞöaquálö'''. ''I’ll be out until 6 with Gary and Sean''. (lit: ''Until 6 pm, I will be, with Gary and Sean, somewhere'').   
* '''Lintöni 18S, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, eÞöaquálö'''. ''I’ll be out until 6pm with Gary and Sean''. lit: ''Until 6 pm, I will be, with Gary and Sean, somewhere''.   


Although the pph ''until 6'' is not technically an ''adverb of time'', it goes first in word order because it 'denotes' time; the pph with ''Gary and Sean'' goes second in word order because it contains real names. (please note that '''binä nébaræ''' is not a pph)
Although the pph ''until 6'' is not technically an ''adverb of time'', it goes first in word order because it 'denotes' time; the pph ''with Gary and Sean'' goes second in word order because it contains real names.  


Example 2:
'''Example 2:'''


* '''lintöni 6, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, andri animatáj'''. ''I’ll be at the cinema with Gary and Sean until 6pm''.
* '''Lintöni 18S, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, andri animatáj'''. ''I’ll be at the cinema with Gary and Sean until 6pm''.
    
    
This sentence contains three pph’s: ''until 6'' (time) again, this goes first, ''with Gary and Sean'' (real names) goes second, and the pph ''at the cinema'' (place) goes last.
This sentence contains three prepositional phrases: ''until 6'' (time), ''with Gary and Sean'' (real names), and ''at the cinema'' (place).


In the sentence:
In the sentence:


* '''binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, andri animatáj'''. ''I’ll be at the cinema with Gary and Sean''. (lit: ''I’ll be, with Gary and Sean, at the cinema''). 
In sentences consisting of more than one clause, be it a ''subordinate'' or ''coordinate'' clause, word order resumes for each separate clause:


there is no pph regarding time, so word order follows in an ordinal fashion.
* '''Diö nöacr, näø 18S, raför binöra, yil,, qösra binä nébaræ, lintöni nes, máriÞ Gary ön Sean, eÞöaquálö.''' lit: ''Can you, after 6pm, call me, because I’ll be, until then, with Gary and Séan''.


In sentences consisting of more than one clause, be it a ''subordinate'' or ''coordinate'' clause, word order resumes for each separate clause:
Note 1: The above rule, as said, is more of a general rule, not a syntactically strict. It's similar the the '' Time, Manner, Place'' rule in German.


* '''diö nöacr, näø 6, raƒör binöra, yil?,, qösra binä nébaræ, lintöni nes, máriÞ Gary ön Sean, eÞöaquálö.''' ''Can you call me after 6 because I’ll be out with Gary and Sean until then''. (lit: ''You can, after 6, call me, yes? because I’ll be, until then, with Gary and Sean, somewhere'').
NOTE 2: Due to prepositional word order, it's not possible in Dalcurian to end a sentence with a preposition, unlike English. For example:
 
NOTE: Due to prepositional word order, it's not possible in Dalcurian to end a sentence with a preposition, unlike in English. For example:


* ''That's the house I live in''.
* ''That's the house I live in''.
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* '''TaÞ di abödä,, vömä binä habitr.''' ''That's the house where I live.''
* '''TaÞ di abödä,, vömä binä habitr.''' ''That's the house where I live.''
* '''Binä, ''am taÞ abödä'', habitr.''' ''I live '''in that house'''''.
* '''Binä, ''am taÞ abödä'', habitr.''' ''I live '''in that house'''''.
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In Dalcurian, a prepositional object, be it a pronoun, real noun or a non tangible noun (like a thought, feeling or expression), 'always immediately follows' a nominative pronoun or noun in the subject position (except when the pronoun or noun is followed by a modal or auxiliary verb, in which case it follows the modal or auxiliary). Dalcurian ears are very sensitive to this syntactic rule and is always (somewhat reluctantly) corrected:

  • Ména, máriÞ érenöra, görøria. We're going out with them. lit: We, with them, are going out.
  • Diö nöacr, qiöcra séÞa, icaÞr ela. You can take everything except for these. lit: You can, except for these, take all.

However, when a sentence or clause has more than one prepositional word/phrase (pph for short), there is a 'general' word order according to whether the phrase contains:

Adverbs of time-these go first.
Pronouns, people names-these go second.
Nouns, thoughts, ideas-these go third
Places, areas, direction-these go last.

Example 1:

  • Lintöni 18S, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, eÞöaquálö. I’ll be out until 6pm with Gary and Sean. lit: Until 6 pm, I will be, with Gary and Sean, somewhere.

Although the pph until 6 is not technically an adverb of time, it goes first in word order because it 'denotes' time; the pph with Gary and Sean goes second in word order because it contains real names.

Example 2:

  • Lintöni 18S, binä nébaræ, máriÞ Garé ön Séan, andri animatáj. I’ll be at the cinema with Gary and Sean until 6pm.

This sentence contains three prepositional phrases: until 6 (time), with Gary and Sean (real names), and at the cinema (place).

In the sentence:

In sentences consisting of more than one clause, be it a subordinate or coordinate clause, word order resumes for each separate clause:

  • Diö nöacr, näø 18S, raför binöra, yil,, qösra binä nébaræ, lintöni nes, máriÞ Gary ön Sean, eÞöaquálö. lit: Can you, after 6pm, call me, because I’ll be, until then, with Gary and Séan.

Note 1: The above rule, as said, is more of a general rule, not a syntactically strict. It's similar the the Time, Manner, Place rule in German.

NOTE 2: Due to prepositional word order, it's not possible in Dalcurian to end a sentence with a preposition, unlike English. For example:

  • That's the house I live in.

In Dalcurian, this would be:

  • TaÞ di abödä,, vömä binä habitr. That's the house where I live.
  • Binä, am taÞ abödä, habitr. I live in that house.
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Comparison of adjectives * Comparative sentences * Adjective endings * Adjective tense * Attributive and Predicative adjectives * Post positive adjectives * Inherent and non-inherent adjectives * Nominal adjectives * Resultant adjectives * Adjectives with prepositions * Adjective Hierarchy * Adjective Negation
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The verb to do * Modal Verbs * Verb Moods
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Colours * Days/months/seasons * Describing people * Names of Countries * Hello/goodbye Please/thankyou * Intensifiers * English Dalcurian Dictionary

Links:

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