Talk:Main Page

List of conlangs

I put the list of conlangs started by User:Mos into a scroll box so that it doesn't take too much room on the page -- since it potentially may contain most pages on the wiki! I also made it into a DPL list of pages that are members of Category:Conlangs (but not ATM its subcategories). That way it becomes easier to maintain and more democratic, in that everyone decides for themselves if their page should belong to Category:Conlangs and thus be included in the list. BPJ 04:27, 13 February 2008 (PST)

Those lists might have been useful when conlang wikis were new and we didn't have much to show... I've replaced them with links to the categories; my apologies to anyone who got really attached to their front page exposure. —Muke Tever | ✎ 15:58, 13 February 2008 (PST)

IMHO category pages are pretty darn ugly. If you don't mind I'll create a series of List of... pages with DPL, then see to it that all pages that are now in List of Conlangs ate tagged with Category:Conlangs and convert that to DPL as well. They will take up vitually no space on the server that way. BPJ 07:39, 14 February 2008 (PST)

Revamp time?

This page is mighty plain and could use some beautification. I'm no good at that, but if anyone wants to try their hand... —Muke Tever | ✎ 15:58, 13 February 2008 (PST)

Take a look at this: New_Main_Page_Demo. Not finished yet, but what do you think so far? --Pisceesumsprecan 21:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Now it is finished. Any criticisms or changes? Do you want me to go ahead and replace the existing main page?--Pisceesumsprecan 18:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Not bad. Be bold. —Muke Tever | ✎ 20:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Be bold? Is this a thumbs-up? Tweak it or revert it, if you're not keen.--Pisceesumsprecan 20:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Be bold is Wikipedia:WP:BeBold. —Muke Tever | ✎ 06:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks good, although the old version was more informative, and I think the colours are too much eye candy. Compare my more neutral version at Main Page Demo. Also, there could be a featured article or featured conlang or something... cedh audmanh 11:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I would be happy to have the colours change, but some people like them. Related discussions here: CBB and [1]. I would like to see Muke's opinion on this and on the featured article; I think that this would be too hard to implement. Also, why do you mean by informative? I thought that all the information from the old page is still on the new page, just more concise and differently laid out. I put support-related links at the top where they are accessible and disguised the ugly 'See FrathWiki:...' links, which stuck out in my opinion. If you want me to include more information, just tell me what you would like included.--Pisceesumsprecan 14:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Translations of This Page

Would it be possible to have a Wikipedia-style languages box below the toolbox (at the left side of the page) to show the languages in which the main page is available?

Could be; I'd have to look into it. Unlike Wikipedia, the interlanguage links would be to elsewhere in the same database. It might not be too difficult, or it might cause the universe to explode. I suppose the hard part would be in getting the language names to display like they do in Wikipedia. Without some hacking, each language wanting an interlanguage link prefix would have to be set up separately. —Muke Tever | ✎ 19:41, 31 March 2008 (PDT)

Maybe MediaWikiOrg:Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Wikitext_in_side_bar is useful. One can probably use DPL to generate the actual list of translations; I'll look into that (being the resident DPL enthusiast! ☺) BPJ 23:28, 31 March 2008 (PDT)

Adding the Real Lang Stuff

Though I know it's not the point of the site, it is the point of what I do, so I will continue writing pages for Native Languages. If there are any special requests, make sure to message my User account. And hopefully you'll be able to link some of the conlangs with the natlangs, where they apply. I also will start writing more in the IPA, and maybe start a Grammar page, used to link aspects of grammar so people have a better idea for things such as declensions, conjugations, and other 'foreign' and 'native' concepts of Grammar for English speakers.

--Blackkdark 04:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Holidays

Okay, so Christmas, lovely as it may be, is not the only holiday celebrated around this time. Probably cause not everyone is christian.

There are lots of non-Christians celebrating Christmas. It is now believed to be a SECULAR celebration in addition to a religious one and people all over the world recognise it. I did not mean to offend anyone; I had in fact thought of designing a main page for other festivals next year.

It's fine, but in actuality, the word Christmas means "Christ's Mass". Now I'm actually offended per se, but I was saying that I changed Merry Christmas to Happy Holidays, which is more Generic and inviting. I know it's a bit more PC, but whatever. I always thought it to be a more fitting expression to go out to everyone, from the Wicca to Jewish people to Atheists celebrating "present-day" and even to the Christians. Season's Greetings is another popular generic one. No worries.

How many people actually bother with the etymology of "Christmas" nowadays? If you're devout Christian, you think of God being born. If you're Japanese, for example, you think of the secular version: Santa going round distributing gifts. Now don't come up with anything like "Oh that's so Westernised and unfair to Asians, Africans etc.", please. Perfect fairness is impossible and we're speaking a language with a strong Judaeo-Christian heritage, so Merry Christmas as a generic greeting is perfectly alright. I'm hardly Christian myself, and I just don't see how it is offensive. Denihilonihil 02:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I actually think the whole idea is irrelevant. This wiki is not set up to celebrate holidays of any type, it's set up for con-worlds and the like. Why does any holiday need to be mentioned? ~Qang / Sano~

Ah, it's just a bit of fun for the users! A change of scenery. --S.C. Anderson 15:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

You and I, obviously, have extremely different definitions of "fun". ~Qang / Sano~

I agree with Pisceesumsprecan, it is a bit of fun. I just like being more generic when it comes to things like this cause it seem more inclusive of everyone. Also though, we can do a change of scenery without doing this per se. No worries.--Blackkdark 15:53, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that today is as good as any other to revert to our normal front page as the "holidays" have passed. ~Qang / Sano~

Internal server error

Why is that when I try to open the Main Page without being logged in, including from Google, all I see is an Internal Server Error? I can access it if I log in.--S.C. Anderson 10:39, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, it seemed to work for me at the moment, when I was logged out. If you're still experiencing the problem you might try clearing your cache (I've found cached errors can be rather persistent). —Muke Tever | ✎ 00:33, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I've been getting some persistent internal server errors too. I'll have to check if clearing the cache helps… --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 18:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Did it? —Muke Tever | ✎ 02:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Thus far not really. Just a moment ago I got the error, emptied my cache, tried resubmitting, got the error again. --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 21:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. I've been keeping an eye on these 500's... compared to the amount of traffic we get, the number of them is pretty small so it's hard to see a particular cause. (Well, it was pretty small overall, but over the past couple of days someone running a misconfigured web bot has racked up thousands of them—still, the number people run into is much smaller. Of course, it only takes one or two to ruin one's day, and one or two every day to ruin one's opinion of the site...)  :| I'm going to check with the hosting provider to see if they can shed any light on the situation. —Muke Tever | ✎ 16:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Ugh²: my current success rate at getting the error is maybe two out if five. --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 20:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

The support guy I talked to said the trouble was because we were running into memory limits. The bad bot was really doing a number on that front, but it's been blocked, and we optimized the database tables which should help some as well. Here's hoping it has some effect. Definitely let me know if the problem continues, I want to get this working right again for everybody. —Muke Tever | ✎ 04:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

There were more errors yesterday as well... emailed them back and trying another option—here's hoping. —Muke Tever | ✎ 03:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

(redent) Whatever the problem was, it seems to have gone away (for me at least). --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 00:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The number of errors has gone down greatly—actually there were none at all for the past few days; but it seems like the bot I mentioned is still hitting us, as it set off a few yesterday, and I'll have to look into that... —Muke Tever | ✎ 17:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Illomi wiki

A link to this wiki has been added on the main page of Illomi wiki.--Koppadasao 08:19, 24 December 2012 (PST)

Translate extension

Hello, I see that this is a multilingual wiki. Have you considered using the Translate extension, which allows to easily make your MediaWiki multilingual? It makes you save enormous amounts of time which otherwise is wasted on templates wizardry, manual synchronisation of pages and so on, scarying off most translators; and offers many other aids to efficient translation. Now it's also available in handy tarball bundles. The page explains how to get help and more information, and there is extensive documentation; asking on #mediawiki-i18n @ freenode is probably your best chance for immediate assistance if needed. Thanks, Nemo 17:35, 13 January 2013 (PST)

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