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*Labiouvular trilled affricate [♇] | *Labiouvular trilled affricate [♇] | ||
*/ʈʳ/ ~ [ɽ] vs. /t̪/ | */ʈʳ/ ~ [ɽ] vs. /t̪/ | ||
==Lexical dump== | |||
Some number system, set as base-5 but extensible: | |||
* 1 2 3 4 ''hei len sa mo'' | |||
* b b² b³ b⁴ b⁵ ''idži tudži <u>pxe</u>dži vašši teldži'' | |||
* 2b 2b² 2b³ 2b⁴ 2b⁵ ''lenidži lentudži le'''ŋka'''dži lem'''b'''ašši lente'''r'''dži'' | |||
* 3b 3b² 3b³ 3b⁴ 3b⁵ ''saidži satudži sa'''kwa'''dži savašši sate'''r'''dži'' | |||
* 4b 4b² 4b³ 4b⁴ 4b⁵ ''moidži '''g'''otudži '''g'''o'''kwa'''dži '''go'''vašši '''go'''te'''r'''dži'' | |||
** ''go'' is evidently (b-1). | |||
(why -ter- in higher lakhads?? was this just an orthographic quirk?) | |||
==Orthographics== | ==Orthographics== |
Revision as of 06:04, 13 November 2009
Experimental Phonology Labs
Internally consistent weirdness
BLB | LBA | LZD | VZD | GUT | AER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
ʘ | ǁ | ǃ | |||
ʘⁿ | ǁⁿ | ǃⁿ | |||
p | ɾ | ʈk) | ʡ | ʡʰ | |
m | ɳŋ) | ɴ̠ | ɴ̠ʩ) | ||
ɸ | f= | ɬ̪ | ɬˣ | ||
ð̞ʷ | ɻˠ | ||||
ɪ | ə | ɐ |
- Coronal clicks are retroflex.
- The "aerated" series technically requires a release resembling nasal release but along a different physiological feature (no direct human counterpart).
Something loglangish
/ i e ə a o u/
/ m n ŋ w ð̞ j r l θ ʃ x k/
[t] is entirely epenthetic (tho /ð/ in many ways fills its phonemic place):
- /r l/ → [tr tl] / {# n}_
- /θ ʃ/ → [tθ tʃ] / {# n x}_
- /θ ʃ/ → [(t)θ (t)ʃ] / _{k x} (free variation)
- /lr/ → [ltr]
- /rl/ → [rtl ~ rl] (free variation)
/x/ → [h ~ ɦ] after /N k ð/ (see next!) & initially
Allophonic voiced stops:
- /k/ → [ɡ ~ ɠ] / V_{V N r l h}, {r l}_
- /ð/ → [d ~ ɗ] / V_{N h}, {r l ʃ}_
This furthermore neutralizes to [ɟ ~ ʄ] before /i/.
Onset cluster: /kr/ Long medial clusters: /nðr nðl/
Unoccurring medial clusters:
- Non-homorganic nasal+obstruent; /nm nŋ mn mŋ/; /ŋð/?
- /ðð/, geminate obstruents
- /xð xk θʃ ʃθ/
- /ðθ ðʃ/
- undecided on /ðk kð/ (what to make of these phonetically?), anything involving semivowels
Pre-Proto-Japanese'
tsʼ | tʂʼ | tʃʼ | |||
p(ʰ) | t̪(ʰ) | tʂ(ʰ) | tʃ(ʰ) | k(ʰ) | |
b | d̪ | ɖ | ɡ | ||
s | h | ||||
m | n |
+ other sonorants as needed
- affricate POAs partially allophonic with each other / t k?
- aspirates → f θ ʂ ʃ x
- θ ʂ → f x
- F → V
- ejectivs → pf x tʃ
Aspiration in clusters (example):
btʃ | btʃʰ | → | ptʃ | ftʃ |
d̪tʃ | d̪tʃʰ | → | tʃː | ɬtʃ |
ɖtʃ | ɖtʃʰ | → | rtʃː | xtʃ |
ɡtʃ | ɡtʃʰ | → | ktʃ |
Note /v tʃ ʒ/ rather than reconstructed *bv *c *ɟ!
For West Altaic'
Or therearound?
Unattested phonemes in italics:
/p b t ɗ c ɟ k ɠ ʧ ʤ f v s z ʃ ʒ x h m n ŋ w l (ȴ) j r/
/i iː u uː e~ə o oː æ æː ɑ ɑː/
fulɑʃr • næɠf • wælʤ • ɟmoŋəf • ʧɠuːz • ikʧoŋv • wərɑːcsibʤ • hɑɗh • ultəwx
(implosivs allophonic with vcd. stops)
For East Persian'
A)
- ɪ(ː j w) → e(ː j w)
- ʊ(j) → i(ː)
- ʊː → uː
- e (ɪ) → ɨ
- ew (ɪw) → oː
- æː/j, ej, ow ==
- æ → a → ɑ
- æw → ɑw
- ɒː → ɑː
- ɐ → æ
- result: i ɨ æ ɑ, iː uː, eː ej oː ow, æː æj ɑː ɑw (needs u o?)
B)
- ɪ(ː), ʊ(ː) → ə → a
- ɪj ɪw ??
- ʊj → oj → (w)i
- e(ː j) → i
- ew → u
- ow → (w)u
- æ(ː j), ɐ → e
- æw, ɒː → o → (w)a
- result: i e a u + labiovelars/uvulars
Shared:
- ew æw → back vowels, ʊj → i
- lo'ering of ɪ
- fronting of ɐ
Plain/palatalized/retracted
Draft the 1st:
m | n | nʲ | ɳ | ||||
p | t̪ ~ -θ- | ts | tsʲ | ʈʂ | k | kʲ | q |
b | d̪ ~ -ð- | dz | dzʲ | ɖʐ | g | gʲ | ɢ |
v | s | sʲ | ʂ | x | xʲ | χ | |
l | lʲ | ʈʂʼ | j | qʼ | |||
ɾ | ɽ | ||||||
r, r̥ |
Possibly: geminates; additional ejectivs (but we're not having a full set); voiced sibilant/chirants (may be allophonic)
/ɽ/ ← *ɭ
To be allocated
- Difthong allophony/split: [au eu iu ~ ao eo io] (perhaps [ei ai ou ~ eː ae oː], [iː eː oː uː ~ ie ea oa uo])
(last part looks a bit too Samic) - Labiodental flap
- Labiouvular trilled affricate [♇]
- /ʈʳ/ ~ [ɽ] vs. /t̪/
Lexical dump
Some number system, set as base-5 but extensible:
- 1 2 3 4 hei len sa mo
- b b² b³ b⁴ b⁵ idži tudži pxedži vašši teldži
- 2b 2b² 2b³ 2b⁴ 2b⁵ lenidži lentudži leŋkadži lembašši lenterdži
- 3b 3b² 3b³ 3b⁴ 3b⁵ saidži satudži sakwadži savašši saterdži
- 4b 4b² 4b³ 4b⁴ 4b⁵ moidži gotudži gokwadži govašši goterdži
- go is evidently (b-1).
(why -ter- in higher lakhads?? was this just an orthographic quirk?)
Orthographics
"Sumerian" diphonic faux-syllabary
With underspecification:
- /tæmæ/ = TFV-L̃V-mFV-LV
- /diːzə/ = TFV-HVFC-SMV
Ie. front/backness coded on "initial"; height coded on "coda"; will look like a vertical vowel system on first glance
morf
English needs more umlaut derivativs
*-ɪθ
- long ∶ length ∷ strong ∶ strength ∷ wrong ∶ wrength /ɹɛŋθ/
- young ∶ youth
- wide ∶ width ∷ side ∶ sidth /sɪdθ/
- … ∷ mild ∶ mildth /mɪldθ/ ∷ wild ∶ wildth /wɪldθ/
- short ∶ sherth /ʃɝːθ/
- old ∶ eldth /ɛldθ/
- heal ∶ health /hɛlθ/
- wreak ∶ wrath ∷ weak ∶ wath /wæθ/ ??
- dry ∶ drought
- high ∶ height ∷ wigh /waɪ/ ∶ weight
- frigh /fɹaɪ/ ∶ fright
- low ∶ louth /luːθ/?
- (true ∶ truth)