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The '''Albic''' language family constitutes the main conlanging project of [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]], and is a | The '''Albic''' language family constitutes the main conlanging project of [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]], and is a part of [[Atla]]. So far, only one language, [[Old Albic]], has been worked out in detail. The Albic family is a branch of the larger [[Hesperic]] family of the same author. | ||
==Project history== | ==Project history== | ||
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The project began when Jörg found [http://www.alt-tolkien.com/r13home11.html this Tolkien fan-fiction story] on the Net in April 2000. Immediately, he asked himself, "What kind of language would those Elves in the modern world speak?", and began working on [[Nur-ellen]], a descendant of [[Sindarin]]. This turned out to be difficult as many words and grammatical forms of Sindarin were unknown. In Nur-ellen, some of the characteristic features of the later Albic languages, such as the active-stative [[morphosyntactic alignment]] with [[degrees of volition]], began to take shape. | The project began when Jörg found [http://www.alt-tolkien.com/r13home11.html this Tolkien fan-fiction story] on the Net in April 2000. Immediately, he asked himself, "What kind of language would those Elves in the modern world speak?", and began working on [[Nur-ellen]], a descendant of [[Sindarin]]. This turned out to be difficult as many words and grammatical forms of Sindarin were unknown. In Nur-ellen, some of the characteristic features of the later Albic languages, such as the active-stative [[morphosyntactic alignment]] with [[degrees of volition]], began to take shape. | ||
During the work on Nur-ellen, the notion of the [[British Elves]] began to take shape, and Nur-ellen was considered for inclusion in the collaborative conworld [[Ill Bethisad]]. This did not materialize due to disagreements with some members of that project. The issue triggered discussions that ultimately led to the formation of the [[League of Lost Languages]]. | During the work on Nur-ellen, the notion of the "[[Elves (The Elvenpath)|British Elves]]" began to take shape, and Nur-ellen was considered for inclusion in the collaborative conworld [[Ill Bethisad]]. This did not materialize due to disagreements with some members of that project. The issue triggered discussions that ultimately led to the formation of the [[League of Lost Languages]]. | ||
==='Q'=== | ==='Q'=== | ||
The language having been divorced from Tolkien's legendarium like this, Jörg increasingly realized that the language could no longer be a descendant of any of Tolkien's Elvish languages. Hence, he began reworking the language completely. Also, he envisioned a whole ''family'' of "Elvish" languages. Meanwhile, Jörg had read the book ''Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans'' by T. Gamkrelidze and V. Ivanov which laid out an alternative reconstruction of Early [[Proto-Indo-European]] as an active-stative language, and he decided that | The language having been divorced from Tolkien's legendarium like this, Jörg increasingly realized that the language could no longer be a descendant of any of Tolkien's Elvish languages. Hence, he began reworking the language completely. Also, he envisioned a whole ''family'' of "Elvish" languages. Meanwhile, Jörg had read the book ''Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans'' by T. Gamkrelidze and V. Ivanov which laid out an alternative reconstruction of Early [[Proto-Indo-European]] as an active-stative language, and he decided that his Elvish languages were to be related to Indo-European, branching off at such an early stage. | ||
This language family, having nothing to do anymore with Tolkien's languages (though quite a few "provisional" words survived from Nur-ellen), could no longer be called [[Quendian]], so the name was abandoned and the family provisionally named "'''Q'''". (This is not to be confused with [[Q (Danny Wier)|another "real-world Elvish" conlang also named "Q"]], by Danny Wier, which was later merged into [[Tech]].) | This language family, having nothing to do anymore with Tolkien's languages (though quite a few "provisional" words survived from Nur-ellen), could no longer be called [[Quendian]], so the name was abandoned and the family provisionally named "'''Q'''". (This is not to be confused with [[Q (Danny Wier)|another "real-world Elvish" conlang also named "Q"]], by Danny Wier, which was later merged into [[Tech]].) | ||
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This version of the language differed in some respects (most notably the nominal morphology) from the later, "mature" version, but the basic structure has not changed much since then. | This version of the language differed in some respects (most notably the nominal morphology) from the later, "mature" version, but the basic structure has not changed much since then. | ||
''Currently, a new (and hopefully final) version of the grammar and a dictionary of Old Albic are under preparation. For the time being, [[Old Albic|this page]] has to make do though some details have changed.'' | |||
===Hesperic=== | ===Hesperic=== | ||
The notion that the Albic languages were related to Indo-European and constitute a residue of a layer of languages spoken in western Europe before the spread of the Indo-European family led to the exploration of further languages that are not part of Albic proper but related to it. This family is called [[Hesperic]]. It is based on research of the author into the linguistic prehistory of Europe (see | The notion that the Albic languages were related to Indo-European and constitute a residue of a layer of languages spoken in western Europe before the spread of the Indo-European family led to the exploration of further languages that are not part of Albic proper but related to it. This family is called [[Hesperic]]. It is based on research of the author into the linguistic prehistory of Europe (see [[Aquan languages|Aquan]]). | ||
==The Albic | ==The Albic language family== | ||
''This part of the article is pending revision.'' --[[User:WeepingElf|WeepingElf]] 08:30, 22 January 2013 (PST) | ''This part of the article is pending revision.'' --[[User:WeepingElf|WeepingElf]] 08:30, 22 January 2013 (PST) | ||
The name "Albic" is from the Old Albic self-designation '''Alba'''. [[Old Albic]] was the dominant language of Britain before the immigration of the Celts; its speakers, the [[ | The name "Albic" is from the Old Albic self-designation '''Alba''' (plural '''Elbi'''). [[Old Albic]] was the dominant language of Britain before the immigration of the Celts; its speakers, the [[Elves (The Elvenpath)|Elbi]], were the bearers of a unique ancient civilization which gave rise to the Celtic and Germanic traditions of [[Elves]], the Greek tradition of [[Hyperborea]] and possibly also of the [[Atlantis]] myth. They were essentially humans who behaved in some ways similarly to the Elves of [[J. R. R. Tolkien]] (whose languages were influential on the creation of the Albic languages). The modern Albic languages are spoken by tiny minorities which together make up about 50,000 people; they descend from various vernacular dialects of Old Albic. | ||
Four branches of the Albic family can be distiguished: ''South Albic'', consisting of Classical [[Old Albic]], [[Low Elvish]] and [[Macaronesian]]; ''Neck Albic'' with | Four branches of the Albic family can be distiguished: ''South Albic'', consisting of Classical [[Old Albic]], [[Low Elvish]] and [[Macaronesian]]; ''Neck Albic'' with a single language (''name not decided yet''); ''North Albic'', represented by [[Caledonian]]; and ''West Albic'', to which belongs [[Ivernic]]. These four branches already existed as dialectal divisions in classical times, with Classical Old Albic showing characteristic features of the South Albic branch. | ||
The Albic languages belong to the [[Hesperic]] family and share a number of features (such as VSO word order and initial mutations) with the Celtic languages of the British Isles as well as with the [[ | The Albic languages belong to the [[Hesperic]] family and share a number of features (such as VSO word order and initial mutations) with the Celtic languages of the British Isles as well as with the [[Razaric]] family; these three families thus form a linguistic area (see [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/72 this article] for details). The Albic languages are active-stative languages of the [[fluid-S]] subtype; other interesting features include autosegmental behaviour of vowel features (leading to various | ||
umlaut and vowel harmony phenomena), marking of [[degrees of volition]] by various noun cases, [[suffixaufnahme]] (i.e., possessors agree with the possessee in number and case in addition to their own number and case marking), and a duodecimal (base 12) number system. | umlaut and vowel harmony phenomena), marking of [[degrees of volition]] by various noun cases, [[suffixaufnahme]] (i.e., possessors agree with the possessee in number and case in addition to their own number and case marking), and a duodecimal (base 12) number system. | ||
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:* [[Old Albic]] (classical, Britain) | :* [[Old Albic]] (classical, Britain) | ||
:* ''[[Low Elvish]]'' | :* ''[[Low Elvish]]'' | ||
::* [[ | ::* [[Avalonian]] (modern, southwest England) | ||
::* [[ | ::* [[Sinjenich]] (modern, nomadic people in Europe) | ||
:* ''[[Macaronesian]]'' | :* ''[[Macaronesian]]'' | ||
::* [[Azorese]] (modern, Azores) | ::* [[Azorese]] (modern, Azores) | ||
::* [[Madeirese]] (modern, Madeira) | ::* [[Madeirese]] (modern, Madeira) | ||
::* [[ | ::* [[Sea Elvish]] (modern, maritime nomads in the Atlantic) | ||
* ''[[Neck Albic]]'' | * ''[[Neck Albic]]'' | ||
* ''[[North Albic]]'' | * ''[[North Albic]]'' | ||
:* [[ | :* [[Arwinish]] (modern, Scotland) | ||
* ''[[West Albic]]'' | * ''[[West Albic]]'' | ||
:* [[Ivernic]] (modern, Ireland) | :* [[Ivernic]] (modern, Ireland) | ||
[[Category:Albic]] | [[Category:Albic languages]] | ||
[[Category:Hesperic]] | |||
[[Category:The Elvenpath]] | |||
[[Category:Atla]] | |||
[[Category:LLL]] | [[Category:LLL]] | ||
[[Category:Conlangs]] | [[Category:Conlangs]] | ||
[[Category:Artlangs]] | [[Category:Artlangs]] | ||
[[category:Diachronic conlangs]] | [[category:Diachronic conlangs]] |
Latest revision as of 09:26, 11 March 2020
Albic | |
Spoken in: | British Isles and elsewhere |
Conworld: | Atla; The Elvenpath |
Total speakers: | -- |
Genealogical classification: | Hesperic
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Created by: | |
Jörg Rhiemeier | 2000- |
The Albic language family constitutes the main conlanging project of Jörg Rhiemeier, and is a part of Atla. So far, only one language, Old Albic, has been worked out in detail. The Albic family is a branch of the larger Hesperic family of the same author.
Project history
Nur-ellen
The project began when Jörg found this Tolkien fan-fiction story on the Net in April 2000. Immediately, he asked himself, "What kind of language would those Elves in the modern world speak?", and began working on Nur-ellen, a descendant of Sindarin. This turned out to be difficult as many words and grammatical forms of Sindarin were unknown. In Nur-ellen, some of the characteristic features of the later Albic languages, such as the active-stative morphosyntactic alignment with degrees of volition, began to take shape.
During the work on Nur-ellen, the notion of the "British Elves" began to take shape, and Nur-ellen was considered for inclusion in the collaborative conworld Ill Bethisad. This did not materialize due to disagreements with some members of that project. The issue triggered discussions that ultimately led to the formation of the League of Lost Languages.
'Q'
The language having been divorced from Tolkien's legendarium like this, Jörg increasingly realized that the language could no longer be a descendant of any of Tolkien's Elvish languages. Hence, he began reworking the language completely. Also, he envisioned a whole family of "Elvish" languages. Meanwhile, Jörg had read the book Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans by T. Gamkrelidze and V. Ivanov which laid out an alternative reconstruction of Early Proto-Indo-European as an active-stative language, and he decided that his Elvish languages were to be related to Indo-European, branching off at such an early stage.
This language family, having nothing to do anymore with Tolkien's languages (though quite a few "provisional" words survived from Nur-ellen), could no longer be called Quendian, so the name was abandoned and the family provisionally named "Q". (This is not to be confused with another "real-world Elvish" conlang also named "Q", by Danny Wier, which was later merged into Tech.)
Albic
The family received its final name in early 2004 (the first mention of "Albic" on the CONLANG list dates from February 23, 2004). By this time, the contours of Old Albic were clearly showing in the drafts. A first sketch of Old Albic was posted to CONLANG on June 21, 2004:
This version of the language differed in some respects (most notably the nominal morphology) from the later, "mature" version, but the basic structure has not changed much since then.
Currently, a new (and hopefully final) version of the grammar and a dictionary of Old Albic are under preparation. For the time being, this page has to make do though some details have changed.
Hesperic
The notion that the Albic languages were related to Indo-European and constitute a residue of a layer of languages spoken in western Europe before the spread of the Indo-European family led to the exploration of further languages that are not part of Albic proper but related to it. This family is called Hesperic. It is based on research of the author into the linguistic prehistory of Europe (see Aquan).
The Albic language family
This part of the article is pending revision. --WeepingElf 08:30, 22 January 2013 (PST)
The name "Albic" is from the Old Albic self-designation Alba (plural Elbi). Old Albic was the dominant language of Britain before the immigration of the Celts; its speakers, the Elbi, were the bearers of a unique ancient civilization which gave rise to the Celtic and Germanic traditions of Elves, the Greek tradition of Hyperborea and possibly also of the Atlantis myth. They were essentially humans who behaved in some ways similarly to the Elves of J. R. R. Tolkien (whose languages were influential on the creation of the Albic languages). The modern Albic languages are spoken by tiny minorities which together make up about 50,000 people; they descend from various vernacular dialects of Old Albic.
Four branches of the Albic family can be distiguished: South Albic, consisting of Classical Old Albic, Low Elvish and Macaronesian; Neck Albic with a single language (name not decided yet); North Albic, represented by Caledonian; and West Albic, to which belongs Ivernic. These four branches already existed as dialectal divisions in classical times, with Classical Old Albic showing characteristic features of the South Albic branch.
The Albic languages belong to the Hesperic family and share a number of features (such as VSO word order and initial mutations) with the Celtic languages of the British Isles as well as with the Razaric family; these three families thus form a linguistic area (see this article for details). The Albic languages are active-stative languages of the fluid-S subtype; other interesting features include autosegmental behaviour of vowel features (leading to various umlaut and vowel harmony phenomena), marking of degrees of volition by various noun cases, suffixaufnahme (i.e., possessors agree with the possessee in number and case in addition to their own number and case marking), and a duodecimal (base 12) number system.
Classification
Preliminary list, subject to revision
- Proto-Albic (reconstructed, Britain)
- South Albic
- Old Albic (classical, Britain)
- Low Elvish
- Azorese (modern, Azores)
- Madeirese (modern, Madeira)
- Sea Elvish (modern, maritime nomads in the Atlantic)
- Arwinish (modern, Scotland)
- Ivernic (modern, Ireland)