Round Robin Romlang
The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.
More Specific Rules
Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.
Participants
Current Participants
- Kenner Gordon
- Shair Ahmed
- Kelvin Jackson
- Peter Bleackley
- Calculator Ftvb
It is Shair Ahmed's turn.
Possible Participants
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
- Karen Badham
- Benct Philip Jonsson
Former Participants
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Sound Changes
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.
Stage 1
- a: > a
- e > ɛ
- e: > e
- i > e
- i: > i
- o > ɔ
- o: > o
- u > o
- u: > u
- y > i
- y: > i
- ai > ɛ
- oi > e
- n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
- h > Ø
- w > β
- b > β / V_(V,r)
- m > Ø / _#
- m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
- (e,i) > j / _V
- u > w / _V
- VV > V
- V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
- V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV
Stage 2
- [fricative] > Ø / V_V
- n > r / V_V
- g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
- s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)
Stage 3
- (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
- s > h / #_V
- u > ʉ
- a > æ / _[+anterior]
- e > ɞ
Stage 4
- i > ʉ
- ɛ > æ
- [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
- β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
- l > λ
Stage 5
- j > λ
- (kw, gw) > (p, b)
- o > u
- (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
- u > ɯ
Stage 6
- a > ɑ / #_
- ɣ > v
- ɔ > ɤ
- (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
- λ > ʎ̥˔
Stage 7
- s > Ø / _#
- [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
- [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
- (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
- r > ʟ
Stage 8
- ʟ > l
- h > ħ / _a
- h > ç / _[front vowel]
- (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
- ɑ > ɒ
Stage 9
- l > λ > ʎ̥˔
- h > Ø
- (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
- VV > VɾV
- u > ʏ
Stage 10
- ɨ > ə
- ɤ > ʌ
Proposals
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
- Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
- Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
- Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
- Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
- Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."
What about the verbs?
I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Declension
pɨæʎa girl f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | pɨæʎa | pɨæʎæ |
Indirect | pɨæʎæ | pɨæʎaʎɨ |
kampɨ field m. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | kampɨ | kampi |
Indirect | kampi | kampɨlɨ |
ʎæk, ʎævɛ king m. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ʎæk | ʎævɛ |
Indirect | ʎævɛ | ʎævɨ |
maro hand f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | marɨ | mari |
Indirect | mari | manɨ |
ʎɛ thing f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ʎɛ | ʎɛ |
Indirect | ʎæi | ʎɛʎɨ |
First Person | Second Person | |||
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ɛvɛ I m. and f. |
nɨ we m. and f. |
ty thou m. and f. |
βɨ ye m. and f. | |
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ɛvɛ | nɨ | ti | βɨ |
Genitive | mæi | nɛsʈɨ | tɨi | βesʈɨ |
Dative | mi | nɨçi | tɛçɛ | βɨçi |
Accusative | mɛ | nɨ | tɛ | βɨ |
—, ɨi himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves | |
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Nominative | — |
Genitive | ɨi |
Dative | çɛçɛ |
Accusative | çɛ |
pæ who? m. and f. |
pæd what? n. only | |
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Singular | ||
Nominative | pæ | pæd |
Genitive | kiʎɨ | kiʎɨ |
Dative | kɨæ | kɨæ |
Accusative | pɛn | pæd |
ɛk, æk, ɛk this, this one |
ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd that, that one | |||||||||||
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Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | |||||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ek | i | æk | æ | ɛk | æk | ɛʎɛ | ɛʎi | ɛʎa | eʎæ | ɛʎɨd | ɛʎa |
Genitive | ɨʎɨ | ɨlɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɒʎɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎɨʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎaʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎɨʎɨ |
Dative | ɨɛk | i | ɨɛk | i | ɨɛk | i | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi |
Accusative | ɨnk | ɨ | ɒnk | ɒ | ɛk | æk | eʎɨ | eʎɨ | eʎa | ɒʎa | ɒʎɨd | eʎa |
Relative pronouns
pi, pæ, pɨd who, which, that | ||||||
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Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | ||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | pi | pi | pæ | pæ | pɨd | pæ |
Genitive | kiʎɨ | pɨʎɨ | kiʎɨ | paʎɨ | kiʎɨ | pɨʎɨ |
Dative | kɨæ | piɨ | kɨæ | piɨ | kɨæ | piɨ |
Accusative | pɛn | pɨ | pan | pa | pod | pæ |
Conjugation
Indicative mood, active voice, present tense | ||||||||
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pɛʎtaʎɛ | tæʎʎɛʎɛ | pɛtɛʎɛ | auziʎɛ | |||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
First Person | pɛʎtɨ | pɛʎtamɨ | tæʎʎæɨ | tæʎʎɛmɨ | pæsɨ | pæsimɨ | auzæɨ | auzimɨ |
Second Person | pɛʎta | pɛʎtasɛ | tæʎʎɛ | tæʎʎɛsɛ | pæsɛ | pæsɛsɛ | auzi | auzisɛ |
Third Person | pɛʎtat | pɛʎtant | tæʎʎæt | tæʎʎænt | pæsɛt | pæsint | auzɛt | auzæɨnt |
Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense | ||||||||
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pɛʎtaʎɛ | tæʎʎɛʎɛ | pɛtɛʎɛ | auziʎɛ | |||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
First Person | pɛʎtaħa | pɛʎtaβamɨ | tæʎʎɛħa | tæʎʎɛβamɨ | pæsɛħa | pæsɛβamɨ | auzæɛħa | auzæɛβamɨ |
Second Person | pɛʎtaħa | pɛʎtaβasɛ | tæʎʎɛħa | tæʎʎɛβasɛ | pæsɛħa | pæsɛβasɛ | auzæɛħa | auzæɛβasɛ |
Third Person | pɛʎtaħat | pɛʎtaħant | tæʎʎɛħat | tæʎʎɛħant | pæsɛħat | pæsɛħant | auzæɛħat | auzæɛβant |
Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense | ||||||||
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pɛʎtaβɛssɛ | teʎʎɨɛsse | pɛtɛβɛssɛ | auzɛβɛssɛ | |||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
First Person | pɛʎtaçi | pɛʎtaçɛmɨ | tæʎʎɨi | tæʎʎɨimɨ | pæsiçi | pæsiçimɨ | auziçi | auziçɛmɨ |
Second Person | pɛʎtaβɛsti | pɛʎtaβɛstɛ | tæʎʎɨɛsti | tæʎʎɨɛstɛ | pæsiβɛsti | pæsiβɛstɛ | auziβɛsti | auziβɛstɛ |
Third Person | pɛʎtaut | pɛʎtaβɛʎont | tæʎʎɨɛt | tæʎʎɨɛʎont | pæsiçɛt | pæsiβɛʎont | auziçɛt | auziβɛʎont |