Round Robin Romlang

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The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

It is Calculator Ftvb's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

  • Karen Badham
  • Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

  • a: > a
  • e > ɛ
  • e: > e
  • i > e
  • i: > i
  • o > ɔ
  • o: > o
  • u > o
  • u: > u
  • y > i
  • y: > i
  • ai > ɛ
  • oi > e
  • n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
  • h > Ø
  • w > β
  • b > β / V_(V,r)
  • m > Ø / _#
  • m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
  • (e,i) > j / _V
  • u > w / _V
  • VV > V
  • V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
  • V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

  • [fricative] > Ø / V_V
  • n > r / V_V
  • g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
  • s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

  • (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
  • s > h / #_V
  • u > ʉ
  • a > æ / _[+anterior]
  • e > ɞ

Stage 4

  • i > ʉ
  • ɛ > æ
  • [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
  • β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
  • l > λ

Stage 5

  • j > λ
  • (kw, gw) > (p, b)
  • o > u
  • (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
  • u > ɯ

Stage 6

  • a > ɑ / #_
  • ɣ > v
  • ɔ > ɤ
  • (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
  • λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

  • s > Ø / _#
  • [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
  • [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
  • (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
  • r > ʟ

Stage 8

  • ʟ > l
  • h > ħ / _a
  • h > ç / _[front vowel]
  • (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
  • ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

  • l > λ > ʎ̥˔
  • h > Ø
  • (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
  • VV > VɾV
  • u > ʏ

Stage 10

  • ɨ > ə
  • ɜ > ʌ
  • ɔ > o
  • ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
  • ø > ɵ

Stage 11

  • æ > ja
  • ə > ∅ /_#
  • ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
  • ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
  • ʌ > ɔ

Stage 12

  • back vowel > front vowel / #_
  • (çl, lç) > ɬ
  • tj, dj > ʧ, ʤ
  • ɾj > l
  • ja > ɛ

Stage 13

  • ʧ ʤ > ʃ ʒ
  • ʃ > x / #_
  • j, jj > ʒ
  • f > θ / _[-round]
  • l > ɬ

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
  • Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
  • Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
  • Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
  • Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
  • Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Makes sense. DCliche 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The phonology should solidify sometime within the next few rounds, so that we can get a good idea of what the grammar is becoming.

Declension

pəɛʒla
girl f.
Singular Plural
Nominative pəɛʒla pəɛʒlʒa
Indirect pəɛʒlʒa pəɛʒlaɬ
kamp
field m.
Singular Plural
Nominative kamp kampi
Indirect kampi kampəʒl
ɬɛk, ɬɛvɛ
king m.
Singular Plural
Nominative ɬɛk ɬɛvɛ
Indirect ɬɛvɛ ɬɛv
maʒl
hand f.
Singular Plural
Nominative maʒl maʒli
Indirect maʒli man
ɬɛ
thing f.
Singular Plural
Nominative ɬɛ ɬɛ
Indirect ɬʒai ɬɛʒl
First Person Second Person
ɛvɛ
I m. and f.

we m. and f.
ty
thou m. and f.
βə
ye m. and f.
Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛvɛ ti βə
Genitive mʒai nɛsʈ təi βesʈ
Dative mi nəʒi tɛʒɛ βəʒi
Accusative βə
—, əi
himself, herself
itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative
Genitive əi
Dative çɛʒɛ
Accusative çɛ
pja
who? m. and f.
pɛd
what? n. only
Singular
Nominative pa pɛd
Genitive xijl xijl
Dative kəʒa kəʒa
Accusative pɛn pɛd
ɛk, ɛk, ɛk
this, this one
ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd
that, that one
Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛk i ɛk ɛ ɛk ɛk ɛʒlɛ ɛʒli ɛʒla eʒlɛ ɛʒləd ɛʒla
Genitive əʒl əʒl əʒl ɒjl əʒl əʒl ɛʒli ɛʒləʒl ɛjli eʒlaʒl ɛʒli ɛʒləʒl
Dative əɛk i əɛk i əɛk i ɛʒli ɛʒli ɛʒli ɛʒli ɛʒli ɛʒli
Accusative ənk ə ɒnk ɒ ɛk ɛk ɛʒl ɛʒl ɛʒla ɒʒla ɒʒləd ɛʒla

Relative pronouns

pi, pɛɛ, pəd
who, which, that
Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative pi pi pəd
Genitive ʃiʒl pəʒl ʃiʒl paʒl ʃiʒl pəʒl
Dative kəɛ pi kəɛ pi kəɛ pi
Accusative pɛn pan pa pod

Conjugation

Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
pɔɬtaʒlɛ xaʒlɛʒlɛ pɛsɛʒlɛ auziʒlɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬt pɔɬtam xaʒlɛɾ xaʒlɛm pɛs pɛsim auzɛɾ auzim
Second Person pɔɬta pɔɬtasɛ xaʒlɛ xaʒlɛsɛ pɛsɛ pɛsɛsɛ auzi auzisɛ
Third Person pɔɬtat pɔɬtant xaʒlɛt xaʒlɛnt pɛsɛt pɛsint auzɛt auzɛənt
Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
pɔɬtaʒlɛ xaçlɛʒlɛ pɛsɛʒlɛ auziʒlɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬtaħa pɔɬtaβam xaʒlɛħa xajʒɛβam pɛsɛħa pɛsɛβam auzɛɛħa auzɛɛβam
Second Person pɔɬtaħa pɔɬtaβasɛ xaʒlɛħa xaʒlɛβasɛ pɛsɛħa pɛsɛβasɛ auzɛɛħa auzɛɛβasɛ
Third Person pɔɬtaħat pɔɬtaħant xaʒlɛħat xaʒlɛħant pɛsɛħat pɛsɛħant auzɛɛħat auzɛɛβant
Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
pɔɬtaβɛsɛ xaʒləɾɛsɛ pɛtɛβɛsɛ auzɛβɛsɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬtaʒi pɔɬtaʒɛm xaʒləɾi xaʒləɾim pɛsiʒi pɛsiʒimɛ auziʒi auziʒɛm
Second Person pɔɬtaβɛsti pɔɬtaβɛstɛ xaʒləɾɛsti xaʒləɾɛstɛ pɛsiβɛsti pɛsiβɛstɛ auziβɛsti auziβɛstɛ
Third Person pɔɬtaut pɔɬtaβɛʒlənt xaʒləɾɛt xaʒləɾɛjlənt pɛsiʒɛt pɛsiβɛʒlənt auziʒɛt auziβɛɬənt
Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
pɔɬtaβɛsɛ xajləɾɛsɛ pɛsɛβɛsɛ auzɛβɛsɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬtaʒɛʒla pɔɬtaʒɛʒlam xaʒləɾɛʒla xaʒləɾɛʒlam pɛsiʒɛʒla pɛsiʒɛʒlam auziʒɛʒla auziʒɛʒlam
Second Person pɔɬtaʒɛʒla pɔɬtaʒɛʒlasɛ xaʒləɾɛʒla xaʒləɾɛʒlasɛ pɛsiʒɛʒla pɛsiʒɛʒlasɛ auziʒɛʒla auziʒɛʒlasɛ
Third Person pɔɬtaʒɛʒlat pɔɬtaʒɛʒlant xaʒləɾɛʒlat xaʒləɾɛʒlant pɛsiʒɛʒlat pɛsiʒɛʒlant auziʒɛʒlat auziʒɛʒlant
Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
pɔɬtaʒlɛ xajlɛʒlɛ pɛsɛʒlɛ auziʒlɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬtaɾ pɔɬtaɾɛm xaʒlɛɾ xaʒlɛɾɛm pɛsa pɛsɛm auzɛɾa auzɛɾɛm
Second Person pɔɬtaɾɛ pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ xaʒlɛɾɛ xaʒlɛɾɛsɛ pɛsɛ pɛsɛsɛ auzɛɾɛ auzɛɾɛsɛ
Third Person pɔɬtaɾɛt pɔɬtaɾənt xaʒlɛɾɛt xaʒlɛɾənt pɛsʒat pɛsʒant auzɛɾɛt auzɛɾɛnt
Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
pɔɬtaʒlɛ xaʒlɛʒlɛ pɛsɛʒlɛ auziʒlɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɔɬtaʒɛʒl pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛm xaʒləɾɛjl xaʒləɾɛʒlɛm pɛsɛʒɛʒl pɛʒsɛʒɛʒlɛm auziʒɛʒlə auziʒɛʒlɛm
Second Person pɔɬtaʒɛʒlɛ pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛsɛ xaʒləɾɛjlɛ xaʒləɾɛʒlɛsɛ pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛ pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛsɛ auziʒɛʒlɛ auziʒɛʒlɛsɛ
Third Person pɔɬtaʒɛʎɛt pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛnt xaʒləɾɛjlɛt xaʒləɾɛʒlɛnt pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛt pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛsɛ auziʒɛʒlɛt auziʒɛʒlɛnt