Round Robin Romlang

The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

• Kenner Gordon
• Shair Ahmed
• Kelvin Jackson
• Peter Bleackley
• Calculator Ftvb

It is Shair Ahmed's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

• Karen Badham
• Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

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Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

• a: > a
• e > ɛ
• e: > e
• i > e
• i: > i
• o > ɔ
• o: > o
• u > o
• u: > u
• y > i
• y: > i
• ai > ɛ
• oi > e
• n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
• h > Ø
• w > β
• b > β / V_(V,r)
• m > Ø / _#
• m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
• (e,i) > j / _V
• u > w / _V
• VV > V
• V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
• V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

• [fricative] > Ø / V_V
• n > r / V_V
• g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
• s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

• (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
• s > h / #_V
• u > ʉ
• a > æ / _[+anterior]
• e > ɞ

Stage 4

• i > ʉ
• ɛ > æ
• [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
• β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
• l > λ

Stage 5

• j > λ
• (kw, gw) > (p, b)
• o > u
• (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
• u > ɯ

Stage 6

• a > ɑ / #_
• ɣ > v
• ɔ > ɤ
• (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
• λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

• s > Ø / _#
• [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
• [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
• (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
• r > ʟ

Stage 8

• ʟ > l
• h > ħ / _a
• h > ç / _[front vowel]
• (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
• ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

• l > λ > ʎ̥˔
• h > Ø
• (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
• VV > VɾV
• u > ʏ

Stage 10

• ɨ > ə
• ɜ > ʌ
• ɔ > o
• ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
• ø > ɵ

Stage 11

• æ > ja
• ə > ∅ /_#
• ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
• ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
• ʌ > ɔ

Stage 12

• back vowel > front vowel / #_
• ħ becomes the ending for all imperfects

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:

• Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
• Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
• Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
• Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
• Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. DCliche 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

	pəjajla girl f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pəjajla	pəjajlja
Indirect	pəjajlja	pəjajlaʎ

	kamp field m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	kamp	kampi
Indirect	kampi	kampəjl

	çljak, çljavɛ king m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	çljak	çljavɛ
Indirect	çljavɛ	çljav

	majl hand f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	majl	majli
Indirect	majli	man

	çlɛ thing f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	çlɛ	çlɛ
Indirect	çljai	çlɛjl

	First Person		Second Person
	ɛvɛ I m. and f.	nə we m. and f.	ty thou m. and f.	βə ye m. and f.
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ɛvɛ	nə	ti	βə
Genitive	mjai	nɛsʈ	təi	βesʈ
Dative	mi	nəji	tɛjɛ	βəji
Accusative	mɛ	nə	tɛ	βə

	—, əi himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative	—
Genitive	əi
Dative	çɛjɛ
Accusative	çɛ

	pja who? m. and f.	pjad what? n. only
	Singular
Nominative	pa	pjad
Genitive	tʃijl	tʃijl
Dative	kəja	kəja
Accusative	pɛn	pjad

	ɛk, jak, ɛk this, this one						ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd that, that one
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter		Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ɛk	i	jak	ja	ɛk	jak	ɛjlɛ	ɛjli	ɛjla	ejlja	ɛjləd	ɛjla
Genitive	əjl	əjl	əjl	ɒjl	əjl	əjl	ɛjli	ɛjləjl	ɛjli	ejlajl	ɛjli	ɛjləjl
Dative	əɛk	i	əɛk	i	əɛk	i	ɛjli	ɛjli	ɛjli	ɛjli	ɛjli	ɛjli
Accusative	ənk	ə	ɒnk	ɒ	ɛk	jak	ɛjl	ɛjl	ɛjla	ɒjla	ɒjləd	ɛjla

Relative pronouns

	pi, pjaæ, pəd who, which, that
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pi	pi	pja	pja	pəd	pja
Genitive	tʃijl	pəjl	tʃijl	pajl	tʃijl	pəjl
Dative	kəja	pi	kəja	pi	kəja	pi
Accusative	pɛn	pə	pan	pa	pod	pja

Conjugation

	Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
	pʌʎtajlja		tjajlɛjlja		pjasɛjlja		auzijlja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎt	pʌʎtam	tjajljaɾ	tjajlɛm	pjas	pjasim	auzɛɾ	auzim
Second Person	pʌʎta	pʌʎtasɛ	tjajlɛ	tjajlɛsɛ	pjasɛ	pjasɛsɛ	auzi	auzisɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtat	pʌʎtant	tjajljat	tjajljant	pjasɛt	pjasint	auzɛt	auzjaənt

	Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
	pʌʎtajlja		tjaçlɛjlja		pjasɛjlja		auzijlja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaħa	pʌʎtaβam	tjajlɛħa	tjajlɛβam	pjasɛħa	pjasɛβam	auzjaɛħa	auzjaɛβam
Second Person	pʌʎtaħa	pʌʎtaβasɛ	tjajlɛħa	tjajlɛβasɛ	pjasɛħa	pjasɛβasɛ	auzjaɛħa	auzjaɛβasɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaħat	pʌʎtaħant	tjajlɛħat	tjajlɛħant	pjasɛħat	pjasɛħant	auzjaɛħat	auzjaɛβant

	Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
	pʌʎtaβɛsja		tjajləɾɛsja		pɛtɛβɛsja		auzɛβɛsja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaji	pʌʎtajɛm	tjajləɾi	tjajləɾim	pjasiji	pjasijimja	auziji	auzijɛm
Second Person	pʌʎtaβɛsti	pʌʎtaβɛstɛ	tjajləɾɛsti	tjajləɾɛstɛ	pjasiβɛsti	pjasiβɛstɛ	auziβɛsti	auziβɛstɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaut	pʌʎtaβɛjlənt	tjajləɾɛt	tjajləɾɛjlənt	pjasijɛt	pjasiβɛjlənt	auzijɛt	auziβɛʎənt

	Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
	pʌʎtaβɛsja		tjajləɾɛsja		pjasɛβɛsja		auzɛβɛsja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtajjajla	pʌʎtajjajlam	tjajləɾjajla	tjajləɾjajlam	pjasijjajla	pjasijjajlam	auzijjajla	auzijjajlam
Second Person	pʌʎtajjajla	pʌʎtajjajlasɛ	tjajləɾjajla	tjajləɾjajlasɛ	pjasijjajla	pjasijjajlasɛ	auzijjajla	auzijjajlasɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtajjajlat	pʌʎtajjajlant	tjajləɾjajlat	tjajləɾjajlant	pjasijjajlat	pjasijjajlant	auzijjajlat	auzijjajlant

	Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
	pʌʎtajlja		tjajlɛjlja		pjasɛjlja		auzijlja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaɾ	pʌʎtaɾɛm	tjajlɛɾ	tjajlɛɾɛm	pjasa	pjasɛm	auzɛɾa	auzɛɾɛm
Second Person	pʌʎtaɾɛ	pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ	tjajlɛɾɛ	tjajlɛɾɛsɛ	pjasɛ	pjasɛsɛ	auzɛɾɛ	auzɛɾɛsɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaɾɛt	pʌʎtaɾənt	tjajlɛɾɛt	tjajlɛɾənt	pjasjat	pjasjant	auzɛɾjat	auzɛɾjant

	Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
	pʌʎtajlja		tjajlɛjlja		pjasɛjlja		auzijlja
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtajjajl	pʌʎtaβjajlɛm	tjajləɾjajl	tjajləɾjajlɛm	pjasɛjjajlə	pjajlsɛjjajlɛm	auzijjajlə	auzijjajlɛm
Second Person	pʌʎtajjajlɛ	pʌʎtaβjajlɛsɛ	tjajləɾjajlɛ	tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ	pjasɛjjajlɛ	pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ	auzijjajlɛ	auzijjajlɛsɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtajæʎɛt	pʌʎtaβjajlɛnt	tjajləɾjajlɛt	tjajləɾjajlɛnt	pjasɛjjajlɛt	pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ	auzijjajlɛt	auzijjajlɛnt