Talk:Chinese sound correspondences

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Unfortunately I do not have the data for Middle Korean. Linguoboy might. - 振霖T 05:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I made my own proposal for Middle chinese phonology: v1 (probably closer to early middle chinese): [1], v2 (probably closer to late middle chinese): [2]

Suzhou Wu sound changes

> Wu — Suzhou The following recent sound changes apply but are omitted to reduce clutter:

> [k kʰ g h ɦ n] > [tɕ tɕʰ dʑ ɕ dʑ ȵ] / _[i,j,y,ɥ]

can anyone provide examples for the ɦ > dʑ change?

As far as I can tell, according to Wugniu.com and wu-chinese.com/minidict, in Suzhou Wu /ɦ/ followed by any glide just treats that glide as an onset.

e.g. 系 /ɦiʲ²¹³/ -> [ji̝²¹³] <yi6> (c.f. Mandarin <xi4>)

现 /ɦiɪ²¹³/ -> [ji²¹³] <ye6> (c.f. Mandarin <xian4>

云 /ɦyn²²³/ -> [jyn ~ ɥin] <yun2>

even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2> t same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ̃²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2>

- User:Myriaddestiny 07 July 2023

The ɦ > dʑ is likely a typo. Nevertheless, I changed the article so that Shanghainese is the main representative for Wu due to the availability of data that I have. Hopefully the updated notes on its sound changes are more accurate this time. --Excusememoi (talk) 20:53, 4 August 2024 (PDT)