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It's probably a good idea to use ''hl, hlz'' etc. for voiceless lateral ''fricatives'', as
It's probably a good idea to use ''hl, hlz'' etc. for voiceless lateral ''fricatives'', as
voiceless lateral approximants probably never are phonemic in the wild.
voiceless lateral approximants probably never are phonemic in the wild.
Also I decided to use ''hy'' for [ç], as a distinction between voiceless palatal fricative and voiceless palatal approximant probably doesn't occur in the wild.
== Assume homorganicness ==
Nasals and maybe also laterals may probably be assumed to be homorganic with a following obstruent unless otherwise indicated. Thus ''nt, n.j, nty, n.g'' etc. may safely be used instead of ''nrt, njj, nyty, ngg'' etc. (although your preferences may vary as to which of ''njj/n.j''_ and ''ngg/n.g'' is better!) To mark a nasal as explicitly laminoalveolar one can use ''nl''. Since the difference between [nˡ] and [lⁿ] is probably philosophical, ''ln'' can be used for a nasal lateral/lateral nasal alike.


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That's all for now... --[[User:Melroch|BPJ]] 11:18, 23 September 2011 (PDT)
That's all for now... --[[User:Melroch|BPJ]] 11:18, 23 September 2011 (PDT)

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The oh so smart Hungarian digraphs

I'm a great fan of the Hungarian digraphs where the first letter indicates manner of articulation and the second place of articulation, and have been known to play with such schemes, (or the reverse, POA+MOA):

Graphy Manner Place IPA
z voiced sibilant alveolar [z]
s voiceless sibilant postalveolar [ʃ]
sz voiceless sibilant alveolar [s]
zs voiced sibilant postalveolar [ʒ]
c(z) voiceless affricate alveolar [ts]
cs voiceless affricate postalveolar [tʃ]

The z in cz has been dropped in modern Hungarian orthography, so that the voiceless alveolar affricate is now c.

This is all the more amazing as it did not, probably, originate with someone with an unusual phonological acumen for the middle ages getting a great idea, but by sheer accident: it just so happened that Old High German, the language of those the Hungarians learned the Latin alphabet from, differentiated between an apical voiceless alveolar sibilant /s̺/, spelled s and a laminal voiceless alveolar sibilant /s̻/ spelled zz. Old High German did not yet have any [ʃ] sound, but of the two OHG sounds the apical sibilant s was perceived as being most similar to Hungarian /ʃ/ — probably because [ʃ] is usually apical —, and the laminal sibilant zz was perceived as being more similar to Hungarian /s/ — probably because the latter was laminal. Thus s became the preferred spelling for Hungarian /ʃ/ and /ʒ/, and z became the preferred spelling for Hungarian /s/ and /z/. Voiced and voiceless sibilants weren't distinguished, probably because OHG didn't have any voiced sibilants. (Incidentally the Hungarians downgraded the written representation of their language, since they already had a phonologically adequate writing system, which however was not regarded as proper for writing Christian texts on parchment.) By the time Hungarian writers felt a need to differentiate voiced and voiceless sibilants in a consistent matter they chose to use sz for /s/, probably again because of German influence: in the meantime sz (or rather ſz, usually written as a ligature) had become the preferred spelling for the sound written zz in OHG. So z remained the spelling for /z/ by default. The 'choice' of s for /ʃ/ was probably simply because that was the usual value of that letter, since /ʃ/ is by far the most frequent of the Hungarian sibilants, while /ʒ/ is the least frequent. The choice of the spelling zs for /ʒ/ was thus probably by default: they already had the spellings sz, z, s assigned to three of the sibilants for the reasons stated, and so there was probably not a lot of reasoning behind the choice of zs for the fourth sibilant, just analogy and parsimoniousness.

Taking it as far as you can

One obvious 'defect' of Hungarian spelling is that voiced affricates are written just as dz, dzs. So my first obvious 'improvement' was to assign x to [dʒ] and xz to [dz], or the reverse x = [dz], xs = [dʒ]!

But I got more ambitious than that:

Consonants

Vcl fric. Vcd fric. Vcl stop Vcd stop Vcl affr. Vcd affr. Nasals Laterals Tap / flap Trill (vcd) Appr. (vcd)
Bilabial fw bw p b pfw bfw mw rw w
Labiodental f fv pv bv pf bf m xv v
Dental sz z td d cz jz nz lz rz
Apicoalveolar s zs t dt cs js nr lr xr xlr rr r
Laminoalveolar sc zc tc dc c jc n l rl
Palatoalveolar sj zj tj dj cj j nj lj rj
Alveopalatal sy zy ty dy cy jy ny ly ry
Retroflex sx zx tx dx cx jx nx lx x xl rx
Palatal hy qy ky gy khy gqy ngy lgy y
Velar hk qg k g khk gqg ng lg yg
Uvular hq q kq gq khq gqq nq lq rq yq
Pharyngeal hh yh
Glottal h qh kh

Vowels

It's a lot trickier to do a similar scheme with only five vowel letters a, e, i, o, u (since I already had to use y, w as consonants...). However, the five single vowels + all possible combinations of two of them gives 52 = 25 different vowel graphies, which should be enough qualitative distinctions for most languages. So I had a go at distributing those graphies over the vowel space, pretending that the holes in the IPA official vowel chart are really justified, and trying to give the digraphs sensible 'intermediate' values between the single-letter vowels. It's not entirely consistent: I let e and ea swap places so that [ə] would get a single-letter graphy, then based the values of eu and ae on the [ə] value for e...

Front
unrounded
Front
rounded
Central
unrounded
Central
rounded
Back
unrounded
Back
rounded
High i ui ia ua iu u
Lower high ie ue uo
High mid ei oi e eu io ou
Low mid ea oe ae oa eo o
Low ai [æ] a [a] ao au

One will probably have to tweak values to fit specific languages, but that shauld be OK as long as one picks the nearest suitable graphy.

That may of course be done to cut down on digraphs with consonants also!

Disabiguating

Clearly this scheme needs some means to disambiguate e.g. [lz] from [l̪]. There is a really simple solution: wherever two adjacent letters which could be a digraph belong to different graphies you put a period between them: lz is [l̪], but [lz] is l.z; kh is /ʔ/, but [kʰ] is k.h. This works because the punctuation character . (the period/full stop) is usually followed by whitespace, another punctuation character or the end-of-text; a period between two letters is then a pretty safe digraph-breaker! Moreover you can, when you are not really restricted to ASCII, use the mid dot (· U+00B7 or decimal 183, thus in Latin-1 and usable even on Yahoo groups...) instead of the low period, as Catalan does to distinguish ll [ʎ] from l·l [ll].

Secondary articulations

This also comes in handy to provide a means of symbolizing secondary articulations: you can e.g. use an for [ã] but a.n (or a·n) for [an].

Similarly lateral fricatives may be written by putting an l after the graphy for a fricative: sl [ɬ], ˈˈs.l/s·lˈˈ [sl], zsl [ɮ], zs.l/zs·l [zl].

Diphthongs and hiatus

Unfortunately you also need to distinguish not only diphthongs from vowel digraphs, but also diphthongs from vowels in hiatus. A reasonable solution is to use an apostrophe for hiatus: hi'atus is the Latin pronunciation of "hiatus", hi.atus (or hi·atus) is [hi͡atus] with a diphthong, and hiatus is [hɨtus]!

This can come in handy with consonants too: sy is [ɕ], s.y (or s·y) is [sʲ] and s'y is [sj] — if one really needs to distinguish all three.

A good thing I refrained from using the apostrophe as a letter! ;-)

A thought
Maybe it's better to define apostrophe after a vowel as a stress mark? I'm inclined to believe that the difference, if any, between a hiatus and a diphthong always has to do with the relation between prosody and syllabification of a particular language.

Length indication

This is simple: just double the first letter of the digraph: seei is "se" [seː], the Swedish word for 'see', akkya is [acca], and addta is [ad̺d̺a].

Voiceless sonorants

Voiceless sonorants are written by putting an h before the graphy for the voiced counterpart: hw, hv, hl, hr, hn, hng etc.

It's probably a good idea to use hl, hlz etc. for voiceless lateral fricatives, as voiceless lateral approximants probably never are phonemic in the wild.

Also I decided to use hy for [ç], as a distinction between voiceless palatal fricative and voiceless palatal approximant probably doesn't occur in the wild.

Assume homorganicness

Nasals and maybe also laterals may probably be assumed to be homorganic with a following obstruent unless otherwise indicated. Thus nt, n.j, nty, n.g etc. may safely be used instead of nrt, njj, nyty, ngg etc. (although your preferences may vary as to which of njj/n.j_ and ngg/n.g is better!) To mark a nasal as explicitly laminoalveolar one can use nl. Since the difference between [nˡ] and [lⁿ] is probably philosophical, ln can be used for a nasal lateral/lateral nasal alike.



That's all for now... --BPJ 11:18, 23 September 2011 (PDT)