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==base==
[[Naeso]] counts in base ten, but also has special terms for expressing hexadecimal numbers.


Naeso counts in base ten, but also has special terms for expressing hexadecimal numbers.
Decimal number words are formed by stringing the digits together from left to right. For example, 813 is formed as "eightonethree".
 
==How to form number words==
*example: 813
{{V|eightonethree|date=2011-4-19|FH|y|RJ|n|JH|y|BF|y}}
* I will only propose number words with one syllable, making the above a lot easier to understand. —[[User:Fenhl|FH]]
** I disagree since short words are easier to misunderstand. ~RJ
**Hopefully my proposal avoids this problem.  I generated a set of phonologically-redundant words using  [http://jimhenry.conlang.org/conlang/redundancy.htm this algorithm], tweaking the input file so its output overlapped as much as possible with Fenhl and MalfermitaKodo's proposals. --[[User:Jim Henry|Jim Henry]] 15:52, 26 October 2010 (PDT)
**It would still cause issues with large and exact numbers. Namely when there are more numbers than the average person can hold in short-term memory. ~RJ
 
{{V|eighthundred-oneten-three|date=2011-4-19|RJ|y|FH|n|JH|n|BF|y}}
 
==How to mark hex numbers==


*I certainly do not want Naeso speakers to have to guess on whether a number is dec or hex. How do we avoid this? —[[User:Fenhl|FH]]
*I certainly do not want Naeso speakers to have to guess on whether a number is dec or hex. How do we avoid this? —[[User:Fenhl|FH]]

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Naeso counts in base ten, but also has special terms for expressing hexadecimal numbers.

Decimal number words are formed by stringing the digits together from left to right. For example, 813 is formed as "eightonethree".

  • I certainly do not want Naeso speakers to have to guess on whether a number is dec or hex. How do we avoid this? —FH

number words

0

2011-4-19
se — 4/0 (FH,RJ,JH,BF,/0)

1

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a — 2/2 (FH,BF,/RJ,JH,)
  • Redundancy is a feature, not a bug. ~RJ
2011-4-19
tsai — 2/2 (RJ,FH,/JH,BF,)
2011-4-19
tho — 3/0 (JH,FH,BF,/0)

2

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dy — 3/0 (FH,JH,BF,/0)

3

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fe — 2/2 (FH,BF,/RJ,JH,)
  • Has anyone considered that this might be used to speak phone numbers over a staticyVoIP connection‽ ~RJ
2011-4-19
efe — 2/2 (RJ,FH,/JH,BF,)
2011-4-19
pu — 3/0 (JH,FH,BF,/0)

4

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gi — 4/0 (FH,RJ,JH,BF,/0)

5

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ba — 4/0 (FH,RJ,JH,BF,/0)

6

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vo — 3/1 (FH,RJ,BF,/JH,)
2011-4-19
vae — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)

7

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zu — 3/1 (FH,RJ,BF,/JH,)
2011-4-19
zui — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)

8

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to — 2/2 (FH,BF,/RJ,JH,)
  • Too similar to 6 ~RJ
2011-4-19
lui — 2/2 (RJ,FH,/BF,JH,)
2011-4-19
toa — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)

9

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na — 2/2 (FH,BF,/RJ,JH,)
  • Too similar to ba —RJ
2011-4-19
dzia — 2/2 (RJ,FH,/JH,BF,)
2011-4-19
fel — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)

ten

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tthi — 1/2 (FH,/JH,BF,)
2011-4-19
zym — 3/0 (JH,FH,BF,/0)

eleven

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thoanh — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)
2011-4-19
zym a — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)
  • I think this is in regard to hex numbers, so zym a would be inappropriate here. —FH

twelve

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munh — 2/0 (JH,FH,/0)
2011-4-19
zym dy — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)

thirteen

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munh — 1/2 (JH,/FH,BF,)
  • Same as twelve —FH
2011-4-19
zym pu — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)
2011-4-19
syul — 2/1 (FH,JH,/BF,)

fourteen

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doal — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)
2011-4-19
zym gi — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)

fifteen

2011-4-19
bem — 2/1 (JH,FH,/BF,)
2011-4-19
zym ba — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)

sixteen

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dzim — 1/2 (JH,/FH,BF,)
2011-4-19
zym vo — 2/1 (BF,JH,/FH,)

hundred

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on — 2/1 (JH,BF,/FH,)

thousand

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jol — 2/1 (JH,BF,/FH,)
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onon / on on — 1/2 (BF,/JH,FH,)
  • A hundred hundreds is ten thousand, not one thousand. --Jim Henry 10:49, 17 April 2011 (PDT)

ten thousand

2011-4-19
djulnen — 0/2 (0/FH,JH,)
2011-4-19
zym onon — 1/2 (BF,/JH,FH,)
2011-4-19
zym jol — 1/1 (JH,/FH,)

hundred thousand

2011-4-19
founh — 1/2 (BF,/FH,JH,)

million

2011-4-19
tinem — 1/2 (BF,/FH,JH,)
2011-4-19
jol jol — 1/1 (JH,/FH,)
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