Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words

List all unapproved words here (alphabetically when possible for ease of searching) until they're voted in. We are always voting on how to translate a given English word. Vote in the section below this, and remember to remove the word from this list once it's either voted in or voted out. Thanks!

Proposed suffixes

imperative mood

-gy — 0/0 (0/0)

additive plural

-un — **voted out**

-m — 0/0 (0/0)

-am — 0/0 (0/0)

• -am is already progressive aspect. —FH
• both are very similar to other aspects that use -m. —ES

-n/-un — 0/0 (0/0)

• -n when a word ends in vowel, -un when it ends in consonant. —ES

associative plural

• Used similarly to English "& co.", see also the description at WALS.

-lun — 0/0 (0/0)

same as additive plural — 0/0 (0/0)

no associative plural — 0/0 (0/0)

genitive+plural

• This is supposed to work with all plural forms: additive, collective and associative.

-sti - **voted out**

• (violates phonotactics —FH)

-tsi — 0/0 (0/0)

-bim — 0/0 (0/0)

present tense

• (aspect? WTF. Someone please name this right, as I really don't know how it should be. - BF)

-su — 0/0 (0/0)

• (Remember that it's not yet decided whether we will suffix aspect on verbs or tense particles —FH)
• (Or something else, like using adverbs for aspect. The first phase of that vote is going on now on the Grammar page. But I don't see a reason not to propose these affixes now and show examples of their use on the Sentences page. And maybe if we end up not having inflectional aspect, always marked on every verb, we can still have some specific derivational aspect suffixes (like e.g. English or French or Esperanto's "re-" prefix; that's derivational, not inflectional like aspect in Russian or Volapük).—JH)
  • TODO move this discussion to Grammar page and add a vote rubric for it
• See the Sentences page to view proposed examples of how the aspect suffixes might be used and vote on them.

desiderative, suggestive, required mood

• (in contrast to imperative/command mood) (e.g., We should have a word for that, we need to have a word for that!)

-im — 0/0 (0/0)

question marker / interrogative mood suffix

-tu — 0/0 (0/0)

Proposed grammatical particles

it

ke — 0/0 (0/0)

• (Fenhl suggests using this only for inanimates; I think we might use the non-IRC-participant or epicene pronoun for nonhuman living beings. —JH)
• (However, we have voted on the principle "Let usage define meaning", which is why I didn't explicitely state the above. —FH)

pronoun for last (most recent) line of chat

ky — 0/0 (0/0)

pronoun for last (most recent) line of chat posted by the speaker

soa — 0/0 (0/0)

other; else; different; another (of a different kind)

tynh — 0/0 (0/0)

temporal preposition

fyu — 0/0 (0/0)

fui — 0/0 (0/0)

• This can be used for stuff like four weeks ago or next month. How exactly these will be translated is not yet defined. Fenhl 17:09, 17 October 2010 (PDT)

Interrogative pronoun

poynh — 0/0 (0/0)

• examples: ku poynh = who, pan poynh = what, fyu poynh = when Fenhl 17:09, 17 October 2010 (PDT)
• I think it would make sense to describe this as an interrogative pronoun, indifferent to IRC/sex/animacy gender, than a "question particle". I also propose that it be used after nouns to mean "which X?". Jim Henry 16:49, 18 October 2010 (PDT)
  • I totally agree. Fenhl 17:05, 18 October 2010 (PDT)

Proposed content words

to fish (verb)

vui — 0/0 (0/0)

IRC or more generally any network or site with multiple chatrooms/fora

taklamti — 0/0 (0/0)

takamti — 0/0 (0/0)

• (I just realized that "taklam" violates phonotactics and was a typo for "takam" —JH)

vehicle

kunoy — 0/0 (0/0)

to hover, float in midair

apfe — 0/0 (0/0)

• Esploranto: what is your suggestion? You can't just vote against it without voting for something else. Fenhl 18:25, 18 October 2010 (PDT)

hovercraft

kunoy'apfe — 0/0 (0/0)

eel

tthaik — 0/0 (0/0)

• suggested by BlueRider on IRC, but violates phonotactics

tthaiki — 0/0 (0/0)

• my modification of BlueRider's suggestion

to want

sidu — 0/0 (0/0)

• I suggest using a desiderative mood affix like bornfor's proposed "-im" with the main verb, rather than a dedicated "want" verb. To say you want a thing rather than want to perform an action, put the "-im" suffix on an "acquire" or "possess" or "eat" or "drink" etc. verb. —JH

to contain

tseltsinh — 0/0 (0/0)

full

sinte — 0/0 (0/0)

• I'm thinking of using "to contain fully", e.g. tseltsinh sinte, for "to be full of". —FH
• I like that. —BF

this

ua — 0/0 (0/0)

that

inna — 0/0 (0/0)

farti

• As an equivalent of Esperanto "farti", this verb means "to be (well, ill, healthy, sick, etc.)"

paja — 0/0 (0/0)

Colors

• I suggest letting "dol" cover orange and yellow as well as what we call "red" in English. —JH
• I suggest we let dol be red, and not orange/yellow. We should have six main colors, plus things like black and white. —FH

orange

nhunh — 0/0 (0/0)

• I cannot pronounce that... -RJ
  • Good thing we agreed on allowing idiolects. Fenhl 18:33, 18 October 2010 (PDT)

yellow

djy — 0/0 (0/0)

green

pem — 0/0 (0/0)

black

kain — 0/0 (0/0)

Suggestion list

If you've grown attached to a certain word or phrase and want it included in the lex, but don't have the faintest idea about what you want it to mean, list it here. We'll consider this the 'grab bag'- other people can look here for inspiration and develop words or phrases off of the ones here, or use them in their entirety. Please do not vote below!

• pimum
• bendiza
• mansu