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It is Kelvin Jackson's turn.
It is Peter Bleackley's turn.


===Possible Participants===
===Possible Participants===

Revision as of 07:10, 17 March 2010

The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

It is Peter Bleackley's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

  • Karen Badham
  • Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

  • a: > a
  • e > ɛ
  • e: > e
  • i > e
  • i: > i
  • o > ɔ
  • o: > o
  • u > o
  • u: > u
  • y > i
  • y: > i
  • ai > ɛ
  • oi > e
  • n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
  • h > Ø
  • w > β
  • b > β / V_(V,r)
  • m > Ø / _#
  • m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
  • (e,i) > j / _V
  • u > w / _V
  • VV > V
  • V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
  • V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

  • [fricative] > Ø / V_V
  • n > r / V_V
  • g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
  • s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

  • (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
  • s > h / #_V
  • u > ʉ
  • a > æ / _[+anterior]
  • e > ɞ

Stage 4

  • i > ʉ
  • ɛ > æ
  • [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
  • β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
  • l > λ

Stage 5

  • j > λ
  • (kw, gw) > (p, b)
  • o > u
  • (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
  • u > ɯ

Stage 6

  • a > ɑ / #_
  • ɣ > v
  • ɔ > ɤ
  • (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
  • λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

  • s > Ø / _#
  • [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
  • [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
  • (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
  • r > ʟ

Stage 8

  • ʟ > l
  • h > ħ / _a
  • h > ç / _[front vowel]
  • (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
  • ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

  • l > λ > ʎ̥˔
  • h > Ø
  • (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
  • VV > VɾV
  • u > ʏ

Stage 10

  • ɨ > ə
  • ɜ > ʌ
  • ɔ > o

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
  • Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
  • Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
  • Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
  • Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
  • Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

pɨæʎa
girl f.
Singular Plural
Nominative pɨæʎa pɨæʎæ
Indirect pɨæʎæ pɨæʎaʎɨ
kampɨ
field m.
Singular Plural
Nominative kampɨ kampi
Indirect kampi kampɨlɨ
ʎæk, ʎævɛ
king m.
Singular Plural
Nominative ʎæk ʎævɛ
Indirect ʎævɛ ʎævɨ
maro
hand f.
Singular Plural
Nominative marɨ mari
Indirect mari manɨ
ʎɛ
thing f.
Singular Plural
Nominative ʎɛ ʎɛ
Indirect ʎæi ʎɛʎɨ
First Person Second Person
ɛvɛ
I m. and f.

we m. and f.
ty
thou m. and f.
βɨ
ye m. and f.
Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛvɛ ti βɨ
Genitive mæi nɛsʈɨ tɨi βesʈɨ
Dative mi nɨçi tɛçɛ βɨçi
Accusative βɨ
—, ɨi
himself, herself
itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative
Genitive ɨi
Dative çɛçɛ
Accusative çɛ

who? m. and f.
pæd
what? n. only
Singular
Nominative pæd
Genitive kiʎɨ kiʎɨ
Dative kɨæ kɨæ
Accusative pɛn pæd
ɛk, æk, ɛk
this, this one
ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd
that, that one
Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ek i æk æ ɛk æk ɛʎɛ ɛʎi ɛʎa eʎæ ɛʎɨd ɛʎa
Genitive ɨʎɨ ɨlɨ ɨʎɨ ɒʎɨ ɨʎɨ ɨʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎɨʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎaʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎɨʎɨ
Dative ɨɛk i ɨɛk i ɨɛk i ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi
Accusative ɨnk ɨ ɒnk ɒ ɛk æk eʎɨ eʎɨ eʎa ɒʎa ɒʎɨd eʎa

Relative pronouns

pi, pæ, pɨd
who, which, that
Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative pi pi pɨd
Genitive kiʎɨ pɨʎɨ kiʎɨ paʎɨ kiʎɨ pɨʎɨ
Dative kɨæ piɨ kɨæ piɨ kɨæ piɨ
Accusative pɛn pan pa pod

Conjugation

Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
pʌʎtaʎæ tæʎɛʎæ pɛtɛʎæ auziʎæ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtə pʌʎtamə tæʎæɾə tæʎɛmə pæsə pæsimə auzɛɾə auzimɨ
Second Person pʌʎta pʌʎtasɛ tæʎɛ tæʎɛsɛ pæsɛ pæsɛsɛ auzi auzisɛ
Third Person pʌʎtat pʌʎtant tæʎæt tæʎænt pæsɛt pæsint auzɛt auzæənt
Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
pʌʎtaʎæ tæʎɛʎæ pɛtɛʎæ auziʎæ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtaħa pʌʎtaβamə tæʎɛħa tæʎɛβamə pæsɛħa pæsɛβamə auzæɛħa auzæɛβamə
Second Person pʌʎtaħa pʌʎtaβasɛ tæʎɛħa tæʎɛβasɛ pæsɛħa pæsɛβasɛ auzæɛħa auzæɛβasɛ
Third Person pʌʎtaħat pʌʎtaħant tæʎɛħat tæʎɛħant pæsɛħat pæsɛħant auzæɛħat auzæɛβant
Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
pʌʎtaβɛsæ teʎəɾɛsæ pɛtɛβɛsæ auzɛβɛsæ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtaçi pʌʎtaçɛmə tæʎəɾi tæʎəɾimɨ pæsiçi pæsiçimə auziçi auziçɛmə
Second Person pʌʎtaβɛsti pʌʎtaβɛstɛ tæʎəɾɛsti tæʎəɾɛstɛ pæsiβɛsti pæsiβɛstɛ auziβɛsti auziβɛstɛ
Third Person pʌʎtaut pʌʎtaβɛʎənt tæʎəɾɛt tæʎəɾɛʎənt pæsiçɛt pæsiβɛʎənt auziçɛt auziβɛʎənt
Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
pʌʎtaβɛsɛ teʎəɾɛse pɛtɛβɛsɛ auzɛβɛsɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtaçæʎa pʌʎtaçæʎamə tæʎəɾæʎa tæʎəɾæʎamə pæsiçæʎa pæsiçæʎamə auziçæʎa auziçæʎamə
Second Person pʌʎtaçæʎa pʌʎtaçæʎasɛ tæʎəɾæʎa tæʎəɾæʎasɛ pæsiçæʎa pæsiçæʎasɛ auziçæʎa auziçæʎasɛ
Third Person pʌʎtaçæʎat pʌʎtaçæʎant tæʎəɾæʎat tæʎəɾæʎant pæsiçæʎat pæsiçæʎant auziçæʎat auziçæʎant
Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
pʌʎtaʎɛ tæʎɛʎɛ pɛtɛβɛsɛ auzɛβɛsɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtaɾə pʌʎtaɾɛmə tæʎɛɾə tæʎɛɾɛmə pæsa pæsɛmə auzɛɾa auzɛɾɛmə
Second Person pʌʎtaɾɛ pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ tæʎɛɾɛ tæʎɛɾɛsɛ pæsɛ pæsɛsɛ auzɛɾɛ auzɛɾɛsɛ
Third Person pʌʎtaɾɛt pʌʎtaɾənt tæʎɛɾɛt tæʎɛɾənt pæsæt pæsænt auzɛɾæt auzɛɾænt
Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
pʌʎtaʎɛ tæʎɛʎɛ pɛtɛβɛsɛ auzɛβɛsɛ
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pʌʎtaçæʎə pʌʎtaβæʎɛmə tæʎəɾæʎə tæʎəɾæʎɛmə pæsɛçæʎə pæsɛçæʎɛmə auziçæʎə auziçæʎɛmə
Second Person pʌʎtaçæʎɛ pʌʎtaβæʎɛsɛ tæʎəɾæʎɛ tæʎəɾæʎɛsɛ pæsɛçæʎɛ pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ auziçæʎɛ auziçæʎɛsɛ
Third Person pʌʎtaçæʎɛt pʌʎtaβæʎɛnt tæʎəɾæʎɛt tæʎəɾæʎɛnt pæsɛçæʎɛt pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ auziçæʎɛt auziçæʎɛnt