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The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

It is Kenner Gordon's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

Karen Badham
Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

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Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

a: > a
e > ɛ
e: > e
i > e
i: > i
o > ɔ
o: > o
u > o
u: > u
y > i
y: > i
ai > ɛ
oi > e
n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
h > Ø
w > β
b > β / V_(V,r)
m > Ø / _#
m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
(e,i) > j / _V
u > w / _V
VV > V
V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

[fricative] > Ø / V_V
n > r / V_V
g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

(k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
s > h / #_V
u > ʉ
a > æ / _[+anterior]
e > ɞ

Stage 4

i > ʉ
ɛ > æ
[single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
l > λ

Stage 5

j > λ
(kw, gw) > (p, b)
o > u
(ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
u > ɯ

Stage 6

a > ɑ / #_
ɣ > v
ɔ > ɤ
(ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

s > Ø / _#
[alveolar]r > [retroflex]
[geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
(y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
r > ʟ

Stage 8

ʟ > l
h > ħ / _a
h > ç / _[front vowel]
(ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

l > λ > ʎ̥˔
h > Ø
(ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
VV > VɾV
u > ʏ

Stage 10

ɨ > ə

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:

Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

	pɨæʎa girl f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pɨæʎa	pɨæʎæ
Indirect	pɨæʎæ	pɨæʎaʎɨ

	kampɨ field m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	kampɨ	kampi
Indirect	kampi	kampɨlɨ

	ʎæk, ʎævɛ king m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ʎæk	ʎævɛ
Indirect	ʎævɛ	ʎævɨ

	maro hand f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	marɨ	mari
Indirect	mari	manɨ

	ʎɛ thing f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ʎɛ	ʎɛ
Indirect	ʎæi	ʎɛʎɨ

	First Person		Second Person
	ɛvɛ I m. and f.	nɨ we m. and f.	ty thou m. and f.	βɨ ye m. and f.
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ɛvɛ	nɨ	ti	βɨ
Genitive	mæi	nɛsʈɨ	tɨi	βesʈɨ
Dative	mi	nɨçi	tɛçɛ	βɨçi
Accusative	mɛ	nɨ	tɛ	βɨ

	—, ɨi himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative	—
Genitive	ɨi
Dative	çɛçɛ
Accusative	çɛ

	pæ who? m. and f.	pæd what? n. only
	Singular
Nominative	pæ	pæd
Genitive	kiʎɨ	kiʎɨ
Dative	kɨæ	kɨæ
Accusative	pɛn	pæd

	ɛk, æk, ɛk this, this one						ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd that, that one
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter		Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ek	i	æk	æ	ɛk	æk	ɛʎɛ	ɛʎi	ɛʎa	eʎæ	ɛʎɨd	ɛʎa
Genitive	ɨʎɨ	ɨlɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɒʎɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎɨʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎaʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎɨʎɨ
Dative	ɨɛk	i	ɨɛk	i	ɨɛk	i	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi
Accusative	ɨnk	ɨ	ɒnk	ɒ	ɛk	æk	eʎɨ	eʎɨ	eʎa	ɒʎa	ɒʎɨd	eʎa

Relative pronouns

	pi, pæ, pɨd who, which, that
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pi	pi	pæ	pæ	pɨd	pæ
Genitive	kiʎɨ	pɨʎɨ	kiʎɨ	paʎɨ	kiʎɨ	pɨʎɨ
Dative	kɨæ	piɨ	kɨæ	piɨ	kɨæ	piɨ
Accusative	pɛn	pɨ	pan	pa	pod	pæ

Conjugation

	Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
	pɛʎtaʎɛ		tæʎʎɛʎɛ		pɛtɛʎɛ		auziʎɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pɛʎtɨ	pɛʎtamɨ	tæʎʎæɨ	tæʎʎɛmɨ	pæsɨ	pæsimɨ	auzæɨ	auzimɨ
Second Person	pɛʎta	pɛʎtasɛ	tæʎʎɛ	tæʎʎɛsɛ	pæsɛ	pæsɛsɛ	auzi	auzisɛ
Third Person	pɛʎtat	pɛʎtant	tæʎʎæt	tæʎʎænt	pæsɛt	pæsint	auzɛt	auzæɨnt

	Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
	pɛʎtaʎɛ		tæʎʎɛʎɛ		pɛtɛʎɛ		auziʎɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pɛʎtaħa	pɛʎtaβamɨ	tæʎʎɛħa	tæʎʎɛβamɨ	pæsɛħa	pæsɛβamɨ	auzæɛħa	auzæɛβamɨ
Second Person	pɛʎtaħa	pɛʎtaβasɛ	tæʎʎɛħa	tæʎʎɛβasɛ	pæsɛħa	pæsɛβasɛ	auzæɛħa	auzæɛβasɛ
Third Person	pɛʎtaħat	pɛʎtaħant	tæʎʎɛħat	tæʎʎɛħant	pæsɛħat	pæsɛħant	auzæɛħat	auzæɛβant

	Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
	pɛʎtaβɛssɛ		teʎʎɨɛsse		pɛtɛβɛssɛ		auzɛβɛssɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pɛʎtaçi	pɛʎtaçɛmɨ	tæʎʎɨi	tæʎʎɨimɨ	pæsiçi	pæsiçimɨ	auziçi	auziçɛmɨ
Second Person	pɛʎtaβɛsti	pɛʎtaβɛstɛ	tæʎʎɨɛsti	tæʎʎɨɛstɛ	pæsiβɛsti	pæsiβɛstɛ	auziβɛsti	auziβɛstɛ
Third Person	pɛʎtaut	pɛʎtaβɛʎont	tæʎʎɨɛt	tæʎʎɨɛʎont	pæsiçɛt	pæsiβɛʎont	auziçɛt	auziβɛʎont

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 * VV > VɾV
 * u > ʏ
+==Stage 10==
+* ɨ > ə
 ==Proposals==