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==Why Lojban, esperanto and others aren't on the list==
==Why Lojban, Esperanto and others aren't on the list==
It is my personal opinion that the primary goal of this page is the promotion of candidat conlangs, these langauges that are so well known in the community need no fanfare, but if someone thinks that they really should be added, I suppose that there would be no wild objection
It is my personal opinion that the primary goal of this page is the promotion of candidate conlangs, these languages that are so well known in the community need no fanfare, but if someone thinks that they really should be added, I suppose that there would be no wild objection
:<small>''The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ave matthew|Ave matthew]].''</small>
:<small>''The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ave matthew|Ave matthew]].''</small>
:: That's also why I'm not planning to rank Láadan very high on my ballot.  It's a cool language, apparently fairly complete and learnable, but to my mind the goal of this project is to jump-start a language that doesn't have a speaker community yet, and give the learners encouragement by all learning the language together.  Láadan already has a community around it, though smaller than Lojban's or Toki Pona's, and if anyone wants to start learning it at any time there are a number of people out there who can and will help.  A lone person deciding to learn, say, Teonaht or Vabungula though, wouldn't have that advantage. --[[User:Jim Henry|Jim Henry]] 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
== Conlangs I consider to be too incompletely documented or in flux to use for this project just now ==
These are conlangs of which I like what I've seen so far, but which seem to me to be too incompletely documented to be learnable at this time.  --[[User:Jim Henry|Jim Henry]] 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
* Laefèvæsili - online documentation is too terse and incomplete.
* Itlani - no online documentation at present, just texts with no gloss.
* Tokana - online documentation is reasonably complete, but very out of date; Matt Pearson says the language is in flux now and the documentation of the current version is inconsistent and incomplete.  Maybe we'll learn Tokana in a year or two when he finishes the revison of the grammar etc.

Revision as of 08:28, 13 July 2009

Why Lojban, Esperanto and others aren't on the list

It is my personal opinion that the primary goal of this page is the promotion of candidate conlangs, these languages that are so well known in the community need no fanfare, but if someone thinks that they really should be added, I suppose that there would be no wild objection

The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ave matthew.
That's also why I'm not planning to rank Láadan very high on my ballot. It's a cool language, apparently fairly complete and learnable, but to my mind the goal of this project is to jump-start a language that doesn't have a speaker community yet, and give the learners encouragement by all learning the language together. Láadan already has a community around it, though smaller than Lojban's or Toki Pona's, and if anyone wants to start learning it at any time there are a number of people out there who can and will help. A lone person deciding to learn, say, Teonaht or Vabungula though, wouldn't have that advantage. --Jim Henry 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Conlangs I consider to be too incompletely documented or in flux to use for this project just now

These are conlangs of which I like what I've seen so far, but which seem to me to be too incompletely documented to be learnable at this time. --Jim Henry 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Laefèvæsili - online documentation is too terse and incomplete.
  • Itlani - no online documentation at present, just texts with no gloss.
  • Tokana - online documentation is reasonably complete, but very out of date; Matt Pearson says the language is in flux now and the documentation of the current version is inconsistent and incomplete. Maybe we'll learn Tokana in a year or two when he finishes the revison of the grammar etc.