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Try to figure a way to make the frics symmetrics .... /p b/ > /f v/, but the final frics /h g/ (where /g/<k) also /f v/?  Note that /hʷ/ is common , and /gʷ/ can be too if it is united with plain /w/.  So /p b/ are united with the coda allophones of /h g/, though it is not clear what happens in all circumstances since the /g/ was only found after long vowels.  The /x/ that begins as an allophone of /k/ will only occur after short low-tones vowels and therefore must be possible to unite with something else as well.
Try to figure a way to make the frics symmetrics .... /p b/ > /f v/, but the final frics /h g/ (where /g/<k) also /f v/?  Note that /hʷ/ is common , and /gʷ/ can be too if it is united with plain /w/.  So /p b/ are united with the coda allophones of /h g/, though it is not clear what happens in all circumstances since the /g/ was only found after long vowels.  The /x/ that begins as an allophone of /k/ will only occur after short low-tones vowels and therefore must be possible to unite with something else as well.


why is /c/ not phonemic?


#After a long tone, all voiceless sounds became voiced.  This change had happened earlier in Gold but was not fully extended to all positions because of variable stress and word boundaries; here the change became generalized.
#After a long tone, all voiceless sounds became voiced.  This change had happened earlier in Gold but was not fully extended to all positions because of variable stress and word boundaries; here the change became generalized.

Revision as of 12:47, 22 April 2018

For the Sak language, see here. For the Tarise with Teeth, see here.

Phonology

The phonology of Tarise is fairly conservative, resembling that of the Gold language from which it originated. However, it went through vastly more sound changes than the Khulls branch, so although the superficial appearance is similar, lexical identities are few and the deep structure has been heavily reordered. Being west of Khulls, Tarise shares none of the common traits of the languages spoken to the north and east of Khulls, but shares some traits with Khulls itself.

The consonant inventory (if no dentals) was:

                       BASIC                             LABIALIZED  
Bilabials:             p   b   m   f   v                 bʷ  mʷ  fʷ  vʷ  w   
Alveolars:             t   d   n       l             tʷ  dʷ  nʷ          lʷ
Postalveolars:         č   ǯ           y                 ǯʷ    
Velars:                k   ġ   ŋ   h   g   ḳ             ġʷ  ŋʷ  hʷ  gʷ
 

Unlike Fojy, the tone of one syllable was not predictable from the syllable before it: two low tones could occur in a row, and there were more than two tones. Thus, in the sound change list below, descriptions like "after a high tone" are defined narrowly, rather than, for example, also applying before a low tone.

Pre-Tarise (1085) to Proto-Tarise (1900)

Despite the large number of changes, this language is separated from its parent by only 800 years.

Try to figure a way to make the frics symmetrics .... /p b/ > /f v/, but the final frics /h g/ (where /g/<k) also /f v/? Note that /hʷ/ is common , and /gʷ/ can be too if it is united with plain /w/. So /p b/ are united with the coda allophones of /h g/, though it is not clear what happens in all circumstances since the /g/ was only found after long vowels. The /x/ that begins as an allophone of /k/ will only occur after short low-tones vowels and therefore must be possible to unite with something else as well.


  1. After a long tone, all voiceless sounds became voiced. This change had happened earlier in Gold but was not fully extended to all positions because of variable stress and word boundaries; here the change became generalized.
  2. The voiced fricatives g ʕ disappeared. This created many new vowel sequences, whereas before there were only falling diphthongs. Note that sequences of consonant + /u/ + vowel were distinct from labialized consonant + vowel for the time being. The labialized variants gʷ ʕʷ shifted to w. Note that most /gʷ/ was due to analogy from syllable liaison processes.
  3. The voiceless aspirated stops p t tʷ ć k shifted to fricatives f s sʷ ś x unconditionally. However, the sibilants were pronounced as affricates after any high tone.
    Its possible that k>x did not happen ... the moptivation is the shift of ḳ>k further fown. However, even if this does not happen> the voiced version still does.
  4. The voiced stops b d dʷ ǵ ġ shifted to v z zʷ ź g. The same change also affected the other labialized forms: bʷ ǯʷ ġʷ became vʷ žʷ gʷ.
  5. After a high tone, the sonorants m ṇ n ŋ l shifted to m̀ ṇ̀ ǹ ŋ̀ l̀ (glottalized). The palatal glide y changed to ž in the same environment.
  6. The ejective stop changed to a plain k after a low tone.
  7. w v>g.
  8. The primordial labialized consonants sʷ zʷ nʷ shifted to velarics ṭ ḍ ṇ.
  9. The glottals h hʷ became uvulars.
  10. All unstressed syllables became CV only, with no tones.
  11. The schwa vowel ə changed to u after a labialized consonant, and to i otherwise.
  12. The velar fricatives x g shifted to prevelars x⁺ g⁺ when not before /u/. This did not affect the inherited /h/, which was now postvelar. Note that almost all /g/ is from the reflexes of /k ḳ/ after long vowels.
  13. Labialization was defeated on all consonants other than the velars and postvelars. However, even here, the contrast was also realized by having the labiovelars further back in the mouth. All fricatives became allophonically labialized before / u/.
    Since labialization backed the velars, it may have velarized some of the other consonants. Also, /hʷ/ may precipitate as p~h depending on tone rather than just /h/. It depends how the allophones developed.
  14. The long falling tone vowels ā ī ū became high tone à ì ù unconditionally. They did not acquire glottalization; therefore the previously allophonic glottalization of the high tone now became phonemic. This also introduced new voiced phonemes from what had previously been allophones: the fricatives z became new sounds ʒ after *what had been* the high (glottalized) tone, since a new high tone had mergedw ith it.


The consonant inventory at this time was:

Labials:             f  v  m    (Ø)    m̀
Velarics:         ṭ     ḍ  ṇ          ʔṇ
Alveolars:           s  z  n  l̀  l  ʒ  ǹ
Prevelars:           x⁺ g⁺       y
Velars:           k  x  g  ŋ           ŋ̀  ḳ
Postvelars:          h

The velarics may be simply dental. The consonants in the right most columns could only occur after high tones, and could not have preceding consonants. Thus they could be analyzed as clusters, but *not* as allophones. The dental stop /ṭ/ was [þ] in some environments.

There were three vowels: /a i u/, on two tones. A vowel could be followed by /i/ or /u/, even if another consonant was in the coda. (Unless /u/ + conso was removed when labialization was.)

Daughter languages

Proto-Tarise (~1900) to Capital Territory (3900)

There might be some deletions of fricatives at some point here, besides the /g/, because if not the fricatives will be the dominant consonant type.

  1. After a velar stop, the dentals t d became the plain fricatives ṣ ẓ.
  2. In bisyllabic roots, if the vowel in the second syllable was /i/, then u in the first syllable changed to uj.
  3. ai came to be prononced /ei/, which (when using the four-vowel syllabary common to the area) was spelled "ɜ" because this vowel had no other use.
  4. The high tone vowels à ì ù shifted to æ ɪ ʊ. The spelling /e/ was also used for the /æ/. NOTE THAT THIS VOWEL DOES NOT BECOME /e/, EXCEPT IN DIPHTHONGS.
  5. The voiced velar fricatives g g⁺ disappeared after a vowel, changing it into a long vowel.
  6. All stressed vowels became high-tone; thus tones were eliminated. The tones left no effects on surrounding consonants, and the allophonic affricates that appeared for some fricatives did not survive.
  7. The glottalized sonorants m̀ ṇ̀ ǹ ŋ̀ l̀ became the plain soundsm ṇ n ŋ l, and laxed any preceding stressed vowel.
  8. Consonant clusters and final consonants, aside from /c ʒ č ǯ/, were simplified and made the preceding vowel into a lax vowel.
  9. Double consonants and affricates simplified to singles and also laxed the preceding vowel.
  10. The dentals t d ṇ shifted to alveolar.
  11. All unstressed short vowels were reduced to the set /ă ĭ u ə/ . If they had been lax, they also laxed the preceding vowel.
    NOTE ON POLITICS: This is about 3900 AD *if* the parent language was at 1900 AD.

The consonant inventory at this time was at least:


Labials:                f  v  m (Ø)
Alveolars:        t  d  s  z  n  l  ʒ   
Retroflexes:            š  ž  ň  y  ǯ
Prevelars:              x⁺ g⁺
Velars:           k     x  g  ŋ        ḳ
Postvelars:             h

And there were six vowels:/ a i u ɐ ɪ ʊ/, with the possibility of either /i/ in the coda or a long vowel on any syllable that was accented.

Capital Territory (3900) to Castle Tarise (7950)

  1. After a vowel, sĭ tĭ kĭ ḳĭ changed to š č č č .
  2. Unaccented long vowels and diphthongs were reduced to the monophthongs a i u .
  3. All long vowels became short; however, diphthongs such as /ai/ remained.
  4. All final vowels in bisyllabic roots were deleted. If the vowel deleted was /ĭ/, the vowels in the first syllable changed from a æ ɪ ə to ei ei i ĭ.what is ĭ?
    NOTE ON POLITICS: This is about 4800 AD *if* the parent language was 3900 AD.
  5. In compound words and certain inflected forms, the second vowel in the word was deleted if the resulting consonant cluster was acceptable ("the Debra shift"). If the second vowel occurred between two labial consonants, the first labial consonant was deleted.
  6. The lax vowel ʊ shifted to ʉ.
  7. In clusters, and in word-final position, the labiodental fricatives f v became p b.
  8. Before front vowels (including ʉ?), the velar stops k ġ were fronted to the postalveolar affricates č ǯ, which were considered single phonemes rather than clusters.
  9. At the end of a closed syllable the bilabial stop b came to be pronounced as ə, with a common allophone of [w]; however there was no change in the native spelling.
  10. At the end of a closed syllable the bilabial stop p came to be pronounced as ʔ, however there was no change in the native spelling. That is, the ligatures of vowel + /p/, which are transliterated with grave accents, continued to be used.
  11. The labiodental fricatives f v became the bilabial stops p b in all positions, although at the end of a few words they disappeared completely. They were spelled with the letters for the "hard" /p b/ because in some writings the letters for the ordinary p b were used for /ʔ ə/.
  12. Voiced stops became prenasalized after a tense vowel; lax vowels before voiced stops became allophonically tense but did not gain prenasalization.
  13. The lax/tense distinction in vowels disappeared, leaving vowel quality alone to distinguish them and meaning that glottal stops after certain vowels were no longer pronounced. However, the changes that the earlier system had inflicted on the consonants still remained.
  14. The old vowel ɪ came to be pronounced as e.
  15. Unstressed ʉ became a true schwa. The script was now written with the old /ʉ/ series as the inherent vowel (previously it was schwa).
  16. The low vowel a rounded to o (sometimes [ɔ]; and æ became a. Thus the six vowel system /a e i o u ə/ had emerged.
  17. Letters with inherent vowels sometimes appeared as the onset of a stressed syllable (mostly in loans, but in a few

native words also). Previously the /u/ ones were pronounced with /w/, but that disappeared, and as it did so the ones with /a/ became velarised and in some cases (especially velars) also labialized.

Proto-Tarise (~1900) to Hawks' Nest Trail

This language is not likely to be the "cold" Tarise.

  1. The velars k g ŋ x ŋ̀ ḳ palatalized to ć y ń ś ʔń ć before an /i/ on any tone.
  2. The postalveolars š ž ǯ became true palatals ś y ǵ before an /i/ on any tone.
  3. In unstressed syllables, remaining u disappeared, forming consonant clusters. A yer-like rule prevented certain clusters from developing, but the epenthetic vowel was /i/, not /u/. Thus the language now distinguished only two vowels (/a i/) in unstressed syllables.
  4. If two fricatives came together, the first one became a stop. Thus the stops p b t d q were created. (Preexisting ṭ ḍ were dentals.) Because of this rule, the affricate allophones of fricatives that appeared after high tones were reinterpreted as proper sequences. That is, for example, /-àš-/ came to be spelled /-àtš-/. The tone was still phonemic because new clusters had appeared that matched the forms that had previously been allophones of single sounds.
  5. The glottalized nasals m̀ ṇ̀ ǹ ŋ̀ became p ṭ t k unconditionally.
  6. Any fricative occurring after a nasal became a stop.

Other info

k˖ k⁺ k₊ k̟

k˖  k⁺  k₊   k̟