User talk:Poswob Rare

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Note to self: Soapboy level: catching candy etc --> extra lives etc, but catching orange --> death. (No, Fruit Ninja did not inspire this. If anything its much more similar to an obscure game from the mid 1990s where most fruits are good for you but strawberries kill you.)

pupwala ..... it's raining. Puptwala .... it might rain.

Tatap tabap

Pabappa /ts/ and /ps/

The Pabappa sound change /tʷ/ > /p/ could have caused much /tʷs/ to go to /ps/, but it would be recorded in the dictionary as /ts/ because I was not planning at the time to have Pabappa preserve distinct labialized forms of consonants long enough for the shift to take place. However, going through the entire dictionary I could not find a single example of /ts/ coming from an earlier /tʷs/ (which would have in turn come from the sequence /tus/ in Babakiam). Therefore, I have made no changes to the dictionary.

Pseudo agentive a

Pseudo passive u

S verbs

Poswa wuptys = foot? Pabappa would be wopto and might mean legs.

Special , not serial

Khulls g is a stop after ?

Khulls has only 4 noun declensions. Work on gold language some more. Gold phonology is not unnatural anymore than japanese is.

The inchoative possessive is -p- attached to the accusative of the noun ... which is equivalent to attaching -pp- to the oblique. It generally takes "recent past" meaning. THus, e.g. nobelliappo = "I (just) got ice cream!"

Consider making this -pw-/-ppw- instead, as it is from pys. (This actually originated as an idea for Pabappa.) Inchoative may be the wrong word. Perfective? Note that despite using the accusative, the verb marker is intransitive. It could be considered to be an echo verb marker?

Make the word for BED "I return (to)". Thus neither LABAL nor LABWAŽA is correct (think of possessive fos)

NOTES

Things to do (Aguust)

• Wikipedia:Hurro-Urartian_languages is in some ways like Poswa and Pabappa. Uses anaphoric nouns?

• a suppletive negative for "to have"

• verbs can have triple person marking by rotating the medial consonant. One of them could be ki>wi>i. That is, it deletes itself.

• tweppi = inhabilitative alt ... call it the disabilitative?

• mention noppuppopi type verbs as if they were a special ial type. .. In orpprating person INSIDE the verb stem (not root

OR RESTORE OLD METHOD OF USING P FOR TRANSITIVE, S FOR INTRANSITIVE.

• Search for all pages containing the word "Lenian(s)" and either change it or explain it.

Things to do (September)

• "if youre happy AND you know it, THEN clap your hands" ... problem is that the word for AND and for THEN are the same (wa)
• find the "blaleba" sentence on KneeQuickie, or wherever it may be. I seem to have had a way to say "having fallen", etc, which worked for inanimates as well.

• remember the -mn- & -pt- case system ... could it be extended to words like potiam "lollipop" that are not case marked? e.g. the accusative would be potamnap instead of potiap. One disadvantage of this idea is that with the current system, the "free" and "possessed" forms often line up, whereas this change would affect only the free forms since the possessed forms never begin with a case marker.

Symbols scrolling leftward across the bottom of the s reen, 1 per second. Like in old 80s video game (?)

Pepaf is alt of peššaf.

• According to Wikipedia, Sanskrit verbs have eight cases.

• Navajo proves that langs with ejectives can be highly CV.

Things to do (October )

• how are locative verbs adapted to 2nd person?

• gila may gain a 5th tone from khulls loans

• get rid of all Pabappa words for people that begin with ta-, even if it is originally from tae. The Pabaps would correctly see this as redundant with the suffix -ta because it is no longer polysemous. Consider using po- (from pyba) because it 1) ends in a vowel, 2) is monosyllabic and therefore "expected to be polysemous anyway". note, it could be pu- instead depending on when the sound changes stopped.

Things to do (November )

• what is Poswa for rureparabosa "red rainbow " ?

• paliam = paefam

Associative verbs

• -s(a) after animates to show independent action, e.g. polapufosa "my cat" (subj, acting independently) takes 3rd person verbs whereas polapufo (my cat, acting with my assistance) uses 1st person verbs.

• tšom is "for me", i.e. The dative

Things to do (December)

• samme fh WAVIESE to japan

• The dative is etymologically a verb, meaning "because I/you/they wanted". Possibly use the Bābā verb kusi, which would end up as just pom/pem/pam in Poswa if it was assumed to have irregularly behaved as if it were *kusa (some common verb stems ending in -i did this).

• pumblwessobefo "I just made you laugh again"

• I just found almost 400 "free" words on the deep blue section of the dialects page. These are words that have etymologies but whose meanings are duplicates of other words and would not be expected to have survived. These can be thus used for missing concepts in modern Poswa and Pabappa.

• The shock of the temperature of the cone of the fire of the burning of the fuel of the ship

• pebabem could substitute for just bem meaning handheld object. Etymology unknown, though, appears in only one Poswa word, so may have a different meaning. Likely analysis is pe "hand; to grasp by surrounding" + babem "in the hand".

• Most likely reflex would be -fum, which would become -pum in wet syllables. However, if this word was originally a standalone morpheme, it would be -pium, which would lead to much less phonological collision. Thus the word for lollipop could be potiampium (though potiam would still be the word for lickable candy in general) and the word for cane could be babampium instead of babambum, which resembles a plural.

Other notes

Inchoative possessive -bibu- (which is equivalentto bib) and cessative possessive ive

The inchoative may be šwu instead, e.g. blempwi "I got a bottle". Or the bib co u ld be padding for the swu . Can also be used for verbs like "teethe" (wiršwu?)

HUGE ERROR IN PABAPPA DICTIOANRY!!!!!!!

Almost ALL /sp/ in Pabappa should be /pp/!!!!! It came from the earlier cluster /sš/, but in the dictionary i forgot to change this to /šš/! The only exceptions are words like pasper "specimen, sample" where it comes from an earlier /səpp/ and words like blespa "conversation, dialogue" where it comes from an earlier /spr/

This is "bad" in the sense that the way I originally conceived the language no longer makes sense. However the change itself makes sense, since it aligns with the behavior of other consonants.

NOTEs3

Remember the -pt- -mn- case markers. Sumerian allows these.

Poswa pepa "room" ----> pf- in possessive syncope. Pabappa beba stays. Thus e.g. Poswa sypfom "in my bedroom" but Pabappa pepubrebibam (sic).

Pios is glossed as WHEN. But how would I say WHOSE? Also consider bubumģpum alternation.

"pul" verbs ... pulma could be one of them

EQUATIVE CASE and DIRECTIVE CASE. in sumerian, " The moving of a constituent towards the beginning of the phrase may be a way to highlight it,[55] as may the addition of the copula to it." (Wikipedia)

The inabilitative mood is the negative of the habilitative. It is paf/taf/af whereas the habilitative is pw/tw/w. Thus e.g. vwampafwabo "I can't eat you." It could be analyzed as an infix of -af- on the habilitative.

Also, the -ep- infix can rescue some fos of the habilitative from sound collisions.

SABER vs CONOCER

Also, remember to ditstinguish SABER vs CONOCER. Poswa's CONOCER verb is biam (from Babakiam bi ŋabibam)

Note, this is prtobably only due to analogy. it would otherwise more likely be bi ŋaibam, without the extra -b-. This would produce the final form biaebam, with two less contractions even though the original starting point was a shorter word.

Biaebambabo.

I know you.

... what is the far more common SABER verb? If WAEMA

Basapiepo waevabo!

I know the answer!

Waevefi!

I knew it!

If MIPU (< mipiu)

Basapiepo mupabo!

I know the answer!

Mupefi!

I knew it!

NOTE, UP ABOVE IS BAD BECAUSE U>R BEFORE ER>U.

Could also use PEPPEMIP or just PEPPE. Peppmip is shorter as conjugation than bare: peppempwafo! Etc. Possibly /peppembwafo/. It would not matter whether the -mip- part is sound-changed to -mep- or not since the vowel is automatically syncoped in both cases.

• Given that Poswa has just šifo for "I dont know", it would be odd for the word meaning "know" to be 3 syllables. going with MIPU is prob' a better choice. It might show up either as mipeb or mipu (which would behave as if mipir-) depending on at which point the stem was hardened.

I verb my cat = intransitive? Would solve 4th person problem.

if so, only when attached to object as one word, not when separate.