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'''pòi''' = to enter or to put in
'''pòi''' = to enter or to put in


'''piwa nambo''' = go into the house
'''poi.a nambo''' = go into the house


'''wiwa toilia di poiho toilicoi''' = put these book in the bookcase
'''wi.a toilia di toilicoipi''' = put these book in the bookcase ... '''wi.a toilia di toilicoin''' ... yeah, I like the second version


'''wiwa toilia di pòin nambo''' = take these book into the house
''' toilia di TAKE.ia poi.a nambo''' = take these book into the house


'''wiwa toilia di pòin nambo kyén jeneye''' = take these book into the house and give to Jane
''' toilia di TAKE.ia nambo.pia jene.kye.a''' = take these book into the house and give to Jane
 
'''  TAKE.iya toilia di nambo pireu jene kyireu'''  = take these book into the house and give to Jane


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Revision as of 03:36, 7 December 2014

..... Want

Maybe I should forget about the subjunctive (ends in xn, before ended in xs, maybe should end in xk) and do things another way ??

If then the

1) wár bái nambo => I want to go home ............. bái is infinitive ............ bái and nambo can not be separated

2) wár bís nambo => I want you to go home ... bís is subjunctive ........ bís and nambo can not be separated

3) wár timpis ò => I want you to hit her/him ... timpis is subjunctive ... timpis and ò can not be separated

I wish that you had hit her/him => wár tà (gìs) timpir ò  ???

I wish that you would hit him => ???

So in the above ... the construction as in 1) is used when the person doing the wanting, is also the subject (A or O) of the action required and the second action sort of "follows on" from the "wanting".

The construction as in 2) and 3) is used when the person doing the wanting is different from the subject (A or O) of the action required. The second action again sort of "following on" from the "wanting".

The construction as in 4) is used when the person doing the wanting is different from the subject (A or O) of the action required AND the second action DOES NOT "following on" from the "wanting".

TO THINK ABOUT


Now we have said before that béu has free word order, however this really only applies to the verb in R-form (R) and the S argument in an intransitive clause, and the R, A and O in a transitive clause. When you have a verb in gomia-form (G), in the subjunctive form (Sub) or in the imperative form (Imp), you must have these elements in the following order ;-

S G : S Sub ... the last of these (S -S ) is quite unusual. Maybe can have S I ... but then S must be in vocative case

A G O : A Sub O : Imp O ... expand this and make it look good. Maybe can have A I O ... but then A must be in vocative case


In the béu linguistic tradition, a clause that has one R verb in it, or one N verb, or one I verb is called aʒiŋko baga or a simple clause. Any clause that has an R verb plus an G or N, verb is called a aʒiŋko kaza or a complex clause.

..... Start, Stop, Try

In béu, three secondary verbs (in English) are expressed by a copula plus a pilana. They are ...

to start drinking => láu solbelke

to stop drinking => láu solbelfe

to try drinking => sàu solbewo

And just to demonstrate that the above doesn't necessary lead to confusion ...

He talks about drinking => cator solbewo

We talk about trying to drink => catair wo sàu solbewo

So in fact the gomia take 8 of the 12 pilana ... ji ge n ho la lfe lkx wo

The ergative s also occurs but only in its prepositional form

..... -am- as a none-productive infix

klói = to see

klamoi = to show

tàu = to know

tamau = to tell

bái = to go, to move

bamai = to drive

kàu = to come

kamau = to summon

fyu = to fly

fyamu = to throw

gwoi = to jump (involuntarily), to give a start

gwamoi = to make somebody jump, to give somebody a start

doika = walk

damoika = to manage, to run ......... damoikanai = "the management" or "the managers"

..... To think about

Further uses of the "s" form of the verb. That is the subjunctive.

Also used in dependent clauses with the meaning ...

that xxx should yyy.

Used after "want/hope/believe ?" if the subject is different. If subject is the same then the verb is in the gomia form.


hear, see, think, like, remember, know, believe | use tà + full verb with FACT complements.

hear, see, like, remember | use gomia with ACTION complements (English would use "-ing")

Sometimes when English would use the "to" construction, béu would use the -u participle | remember

Some rubbish

poma = leg

pomas = to kick, pomari = I kicked

pomaswan = liable to kick, fond of kicking

pomonda = good to kick

klonda = worth seeing

To fix up this bit.....Of course we can make two clauses, and have the second clause one element inside the first clause. To do that you must use the particle . Equivalent to one of the uses of "that" in English. basically tells you that the following clause should be treated like a single element, like a single noun.

I should mention sá tà ...


solbe = to drink

heŋgo = to live (or it could mean "a life")

soŋkau = to die (or it could mean "death")

glabu = person

moze = water

moʒi = steam

heŋgola = alive, living

soŋki = dead

..... Examples of prepositions

move these somewhere else

ilai = between

geka = without

= outside of

muka = outside

pika = inside


pòi = to enter or to put in

poi.a nambo = go into the house

wi.a toilia di toilicoipi = put these book in the bookcase ... wi.a toilia di toilicoin ... yeah, I like the second version

toilia di TAKE.ia poi.a nambo = take these book into the house

toilia di TAKE.ia nambo.pia jene.kye.a = take these book into the house and give to Jane

TAKE.iya toilia di nambo pireu jene kyireu = take these book into the house and give to Jane


méu = to exit or to take out ... I guess cat must be mèu

miwa nambo báin = come out of the house, get out of the house

.... -GO

pronounced operation label example
-go noun => adjective, plus adjective => adjective, plus verb => adjective "ish" gla.go = effeminate, hia.go = reddish, bla.go = quarrelsome

-go

= to resemble, to be like

gó dó = to be the exact image of

gla.go = effeminate, hia.go = reddish, bla.go = quarrelsome

Sometimes the -go derived words have negative connotations, as in gal.go

There is a suffix -ka (notice it is not considered a pilana), that often has a positive connotation, sometimes making a couplet with a -go derived word. For example ;-

gla.ka = womanly

kài = to appear, to seem

= appearance

..... Opposite meaning, same word class

The prefix for adjectives is "u"

taitau = many

utaitau = few

mutu = important

umutu = unimportant

The prefix for adverb is "u"

nan = for a long time

unan = not for a long time

The prefix for nouns is "u"

mezna = to fight

meznana = combatant

umeznana = non-combatant

As in English, not found that often. Sometimes found in rule books.

However the prefix for verbs is "ku"

kunja to fold kukunja to unfold
laiba to cover kulaiba to uncover
fuŋga to fasten, to lock kufuŋga to unfasten, to unlock
benda to assemble, to put together kubenda to take apart, to disassemble
pauca to stop up, to block kupauca to unstop
sensa to weave kusensa to unravel
fiŋka to put on clothes, to dress kufiŋka to undress
tasta to tangle kutasta to untangle

Note ... if they verbal prefix was simply u, then the same word would mean both "non-folding" and "unfolding"

kunja = to fold

kunjana = "folding" (an adjective) or "one that folds" (a noun)

kukunjana = "unfolding" or the "unfolder"

ukunjana = "non-folding" or "one that doesn't fold"

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Index

  1. Introduction to Béu
  2. Béu : Chapter 1 : The Sounds
  3. Béu : Chapter 2 : The Noun
  4. Béu : Chapter 3 : The Verb
  5. Béu : Chapter 4 : Adjective
  6. Béu : Chapter 5 : Questions
  7. Béu : Chapter 6 : Derivations
  8. Béu : Chapter 7 : Way of Life 1
  9. Béu : Chapter 8 : Way of life 2
  10. Béu : Chapter 9 : Word Building
  11. Béu : Chapter 10 : Gerund Phrase
  12. Béu : Discarded Stuff
  13. A statistical explanation for the counter-factual/past-tense conflation in conditional sentences