Proto-Uralic/-ka: Difference between revisions

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==Derivation==
==Derivation==
* *piði "tall" → *piðkä "id." (BF, Smy)
* *piðə "tall" → *piðkä "id." (BF, Smy)
* *tuxli "wind" → tulka "feather" (Janhunen 2008) (does have OU mth.)
* *tu(x)lə "wind" → tulka "feather" (Janhunen 2008) (does have OU mth.)
* *päxli "side" → *pälkä "thumb" (Janhunen 2008)
* *pä(x)lə "side" → *pälkä "thumb" (Janhunen 2008)
* *ńäxli- "eat" → S *ńālkē "tasty", F *nälkä "hunger" (AASmy #1)
* *ńä(x)lə- "eat" → S *ńālkē "tasty", F *nälkä "hunger" (AASmy #1)
* *ponči "tail" → FS *počka "thigh" (AASmy #2, orig. J. Saarikivi)
* *pončə "tail" → FS *počka "thigh" (AASmy #2, orig. J. Saarikivi)
* *ńëri "cartilage" → S *ńōrkēs, Ma *nörɣə, OU *ńëërəɣ (but Mo *nar) (OR; cf. MZhVoc #2)
* *ńërə "cartilage" → S *ńōrkēs, Ma *nörɣə, OU *ńëërəɣ (but Mo *nar) (OR; cf. MZhVoc #2)
* *pakša "knot in tree" → Mo *pakškə (with front vowels? Mk ''-kä'') (and BF *pahka?)
* *pakša "knot in tree" → Mo *pakškə (with front vowels? Mk ''-kä'') (and BF *pahka?)
* *peli- "to fear" → BF *pelko "fear", *pelkät- "to fear" (? verbal sense perhaps re-derived)
* *pelə- "to fear" → BF *pelko "fear", *pelkät- "to fear" (? verbal sense perhaps re-derived)
* *čüŋi → FS *čüŋkä (Koponen 2001)
* *čüŋə → FS *čüŋkä (Koponen 2001)
* Bionym extention group:
* Bionym extention group:
** *pečä "pine" → BF *petäkä "id."
** *pečä "pine" → BF *petäkä "id."
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** *tokta "Gavia arctica" → FS *toktaka "id." (or just S *toktēkē?)
** *tokta "Gavia arctica" → FS *toktaka "id." (or just S *toktēkē?)
* Pronoun extension: *mi- *jo- *ku- *ke- → F mikä minkä mitkä, joka jonka jotka, kuka, kenkä ketkä
* Pronoun extension: *mi- *jo- *ku- *ke- → F mikä minkä mitkä, joka jonka jotka, kuka, kenkä ketkä
* *weri "blood" → Mansi *wirəɣ → *wiɣr "id" (''or *-w?'')
* *werə "blood" → Mansi *wirəɣ → *wiɣr "id" (''or *-w?'')


==No root, but trisyllabic anyway==
==No root, but trisyllabic anyway==
These words mostly appear to be limited to Finno-Permic.
These words mostly appear to be limited to Finno-Permic.
* #kajaka "gull" (Mansi *kåjək)
* #kajaka "gull" (Mansi *kåjək)
* #majaka "beaver" (siffix not apparent in Permic)
* #majaka "beaver" (suffix not apparent in Permic)
* BF *jalaka "elm" (cf. *halaka, *salaka "willow" ← Gmc)
* BF *jalaka "elm" (cf. *halaka, *salaka "willow" ← Gmc)
* BF *kataka "juniper" (versus Samic *koačēvē "prickly"?)
* BF *kataka "juniper" (versus Samic *koačēvē "prickly"?)

Revision as of 15:20, 3 October 2012

Examples of this suffix:

Derivation

  • *piðə "tall" → *piðkä "id." (BF, Smy)
  • *tu(x)lə "wind" → tulka "feather" (Janhunen 2008) (does have OU mth.)
  • *pä(x)lə "side" → *pälkä "thumb" (Janhunen 2008)
  • *ńä(x)lə- "eat" → S *ńālkē "tasty", F *nälkä "hunger" (AASmy #1)
  • *pončə "tail" → FS *počka "thigh" (AASmy #2, orig. J. Saarikivi)
  • *ńërə "cartilage" → S *ńōrkēs, Ma *nörɣə, OU *ńëërəɣ (but Mo *nar) (OR; cf. MZhVoc #2)
  • *pakša "knot in tree" → Mo *pakškə (with front vowels? Mk -kä) (and BF *pahka?)
  • *pelə- "to fear" → BF *pelko "fear", *pelkät- "to fear" (? verbal sense perhaps re-derived)
  • *čüŋə → FS *čüŋkä (Koponen 2001)
  • Bionym extention group:
    • *pečä "pine" → BF *petäkä "id."
    • *pićla "rowan" → BF *pihlaka "id."
    • *säwnV "ide" → BF *säynäkä "id."
    • *tokta "Gavia arctica" → FS *toktaka "id." (or just S *toktēkē?)
  • Pronoun extension: *mi- *jo- *ku- *ke- → F mikä minkä mitkä, joka jonka jotka, kuka, kenkä ketkä
  • *werə "blood" → Mansi *wirəɣ → *wiɣr "id" (or *-w?)

No root, but trisyllabic anyway

These words mostly appear to be limited to Finno-Permic.

  • #kajaka "gull" (Mansi *kåjək)
  • #majaka "beaver" (suffix not apparent in Permic)
  • BF *jalaka "elm" (cf. *halaka, *salaka "willow" ← Gmc)
  • BF *kataka "juniper" (versus Samic *koačēvē "prickly"?)

Potential cases

With potentially related irregularities
  • Mari *l(k) → *l (but also eg. *walka- → *wale-, *mälki → *mel)
    • *śe/äälkä "back" (~ Li sälga, S *čēlkē)
    • *jalka "foot" (Ma *jal; but cf. *jälki)
  • Smy irregular *-ə
    • *woŋka "hole" (cf. *oŋti, *omti "hole"?)
    • *koðʲka "spirit"
  • *śo/ëðka "duck" (FSM *śoðka)
  • *tu/üðka "prod"
Regular(ish)
  • *koska "aunt"
  • *ńačka "wet"
  • *waŋka "handle"
  • *taŋka "tassle"
  • *kaŋka "dry place"
  • *puŋka "clump"