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* ŋ → j/w per harmony, except dialectally in Erzya
* ŋ → j/w per harmony, except dialectally in Erzya


==On the correspondence PU *m → PMo *v==
==On the correspondence PU *m → /v/==


After PU *u
After PU *u
* *kumV *lumi (Er ''loŋ'') *šumari "cloud snow mortle" → *kovol *loŋ (!) *šovar ''(hmm, common semantic field too)''
* *lumi "sno" → *loŋ (!)
* *kumV "cloud" → *kovol


Suffix exchange?
Suffix exchange?
* *śüðämi → *śeďeŋ
* *śüðämi "hart" → *śeďeŋ


Versus BF *-u
Versus BF *-u
* *śëxmi(-w?) → *sumu *śëëmu → ''*suv'' *śav (cf. BF *sumu *soomu)
* *śëxmi(-w?) → *śëëmu → *śav (cf. BF *soomu)
* *suv "fog" ~ BF *sumu ~ S. *somō
* ''*suv'' "fog" ~ BF *sumu ~ S. *somō
* *ĺevəš "lime bast" ~ BF *lehmus ~ Ma. *nəməštə
* *ĺevəš "lime bast" ~ BF *lehmus ~ Ma. ''*nəməštə''


Limited comparanda
Limited comparanda
* Er. ''jav'' "joint" ~ BF *jama ~ S *jōmē
* Er. ''jav'' "joint" ~ BF *jama ~ S *jōmē
* *šov "butt of knife" ~ BF *hamara ~ S *ši/ëmērē ← Gmc *hamaraz  
* ''*šov'' "butt of knife" ~ BF *hamara ~ S *ši/ëmērē ← Gmc *hamaraz
* *luv "" ~ FS *loma ~ Ma. *lu ~ B *loma
* ''*šovar'' "mortar" ~ BF *huumar ~ Ma. *šuer
* *luv "gap" ~ FS *loma ~ Ma. *lu ~ B *loma
* *toŋ (!) "kernel" ~ F. ''tuma ~ tuuma'' ~ E. ''tuum'' ~ Me. ''tum'' ~ Hi. ''toŋ''
* *toŋ (!) "kernel" ~ F. ''tuma ~ tuuma'' ~ E. ''tuum'' ~ Me. ''tum'' ~ Hi. ''toŋ''
* *kav "granary, barn" ~ K. ''kum'' "loft"
* *kav "granary, barn" ~ K. ''kum'' "loft"
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Also *p ~ Mari *m
Also *p ~ Mari *m
* *karvə "fly" ~ BF *kärpä-, Ma. #ka/arme
* *karvə "fly" ~ BF *kärpä-, Ma. #ka/arme


cf. Hungarian:
cf. Hungarian:
*kumi → ''hava-, hó''
*kumi → ''hava-, hó''

Revision as of 18:17, 27 October 2010

Some reconstruction notes.

Vowels:

  • Erzya *ä → e; *a → o / _j. (ojme voj kojme, perhaps ĺom ~ Mk lajmä; but kajge-); in later syllables e ə → e/o per harmony
  • Mokša *ə → ä/a / _# per harmony; ä also after palatals

Consonants:

  • Erzya *š → č / #_
  • Mokša *k → ∅ / F_š, m n r l j v → p t r̥ l̥ ç f / _{p t c č k}
  • ŋ → j/w per harmony, except dialectally in Erzya

On the correspondence PU *m → /v/

After PU *u

  • *lumi "sno" → *loŋ (!)
  • *kumV "cloud" → *kovol

Suffix exchange?

  • *śüðämi "hart" → *śeďeŋ

Versus BF *-u

  • *śëxmi(-w?) → *śëëmu → *śav (cf. BF *soomu)
  • *suv "fog" ~ BF *sumu ~ S. *somō
  • *ĺevəš "lime bast" ~ BF *lehmus ~ Ma. *nəməštə

Limited comparanda

  • Er. jav "joint" ~ BF *jama ~ S *jōmē
  • *šov "butt of knife" ~ BF *hamara ~ S *ši/ëmērē ← Gmc *hamaraz
  • *šovar "mortar" ~ BF *huumar ~ Ma. *šuer
  • *luv "gap" ~ FS *loma ~ Ma. *lu ~ B *loma
  • *toŋ (!) "kernel" ~ F. tuma ~ tuuma ~ E. tuum ~ Me. tum ~ Hi. toŋ
  • *kav "granary, barn" ~ K. kum "loft"

But not in:

  • Er. kumoka "fever" ~ BF *kuuma "hot"
  • *lamə "many" ~ BF *laama
  • *šamə "shape" ~ BF *haamo
  • *kuma → *koma, *juma- → *jumi-, *tOmmV → *tumə
  • *numələ *śumərdə- umaŕ *komər Er. umok
  • *ĺem *kämə
  • *ĺajmə *ĺäm *śimə-

Also *p ~ Mari *m

  • *karvə "fly" ~ BF *kärpä-, Ma. #ka/arme

cf. Hungarian:

  • kumi → hava-, hó