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This is where we'll put proposed and approved sentences in Naeso, exemplifying the uses of words and suffixes and grammatical structures.

If a word or suffix hasn't yet been voted in on the dictionary pages, but you use it here anyway, please please please link to the relevant vote.

glossing

If you're not sure how to format a sentence gloss, see the Leipzig Glossing Rules.

The following abbreviations are Naeso-specific and don't appear in the Leipzig list.

MB — morpheme boundary
INC — inceptive aspect
NEW — someone who has just joined the conversation (as in pae)
OLD — someone who has been part of the conversation for a while (as in tha)

Proposed sentences

Sanzuja ku si pan soenu.

read-PRF A 1SG FOC book

I finish reading the book (at some unspecified time, but probably recent past). — 0/0 (0/0)

Lavao'am ku Jaeku va zaevu.

write-MB-PROG A Jim P sentence

jim_henry is writing a sentence. — 0/0 (0/0)

The above uses glottal stop as a liason consonant, written as an apostrophe between the root's vowel cluster and the affix's vowel; the basics of it would be unaffected if the liason consonant were something different.

Lavaosu ku Jaeku va zaevu.

write-PRS Jim P sentence

Jim's writing a sentence. — 0/0 (0/0)

Zelthizo ku lynh va do.

make-INC A we;INCL P language

We are beginning to make a language. — 0/0 (0/0)

Eana pan pae!

hello FOC 2SG;NEW

Hello! (said to someone who's just joined the chat) — 0/0 (0/0)

Kal pan tha!

goodbye FOC 2SG;OLD

Goodbye! (said to someone who's been on the chat for a while) — 0/0 (0/0)

The above are proposed more-formal variants of basic "Eana!" and "Kal!"

Zelthija ku si va jan.

make-PRF A 1SG P word

I have (just) made a word/words. — 0/0 (0/0)

Sunhsa'am ku si va silzu.

edit-MB-PROG A 1SG P page

I am editing the (wiki) page. — 0/0 (0/0)

Souzo dakai sifi.

be-INC network unreliable

The network has become unreliable. — 0/0 (0/0)

This sentence lacks a preposition for dakai. —Fenhl

Souzo bu dakai pan sifi.

be-INC TOP network FOC unreliable

The network has become unreliable. — 0/0 (0/0)

tseltsinh sinte syn kunoy'apfe pan tthaikiun.

contain full in vehicle-MB-hover FOC eel-PL

My hovercraft is full of eels. — 0/0 (0/0)

This is an example of redundancy in Naeso: tseltsinh syn could be replaced by tseltsinh bu or sou syn, but "Let usage define meaning" applies.

Jia ku y panli onan pfe bam Inhthaja bu kunoy pimum, bam Mansu so inna?

Speak A 2SG FOC-Q man or;EXCL REL enter-PRF P vehicle public, REL sit LOC that

Are you talking about the man who just entered the subway or about the man who is sitting there? — 0/0 (0/0)

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-This is where we'll put [[#Proposed sentences|proposed]] and [[#Approved sentences|approved]] sentences in [[Naeso]], exemplifying the uses of [[Naeso/Dictionary|words]] and [[Naeso/Suffixes|suffixes]] and [[Naeso/Grammar|grammatical structures]]. If you're not sure how to format a sentence gloss, see [http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/glossing-rules.php the Leipzig Glossing Rules].
+This is where we'll put [[#Proposed sentences|proposed]] and [[#Approved sentences|approved]] sentences in [[Naeso]], exemplifying the uses of [[Naeso/Dictionary|words]] and [[Naeso/Suffixes|suffixes]] and [[Naeso/Grammar|grammatical structures]].
 ''If a word or suffix hasn't yet been voted in on the [[Naeso/Dictionary|dictionary pages]], but you use it here anyway, '''please please please''' link to the relevant vote.''
+==glossing==
+If you're not sure how to format a sentence gloss, see [http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/resources/glossing-rules.php the Leipzig Glossing Rules].
+The following abbreviations are Naeso-specific and don't appear in the Leipzig list.
+* MB — morpheme boundary
+* INC — inceptive aspect
+* NEW — someone who has just joined the conversation (as in pae)
+* OLD — someone who has been part of the conversation for a while (as in tha)
 ==Proposed sentences==
 ===Sanzuja ku si pan soenu.===
-read-PERF AGT 1SG FOC book
+read-PRF A 1SG FOC book
 {{V|I finish reading the book (at some unspecified time, but probably recent past).|JH=y|BF=y|FH=y}}
 ===Lavao[[Naeso/Phonology#If a compound or derived word would have a sequence of three or four vowels (if e.g. the first element ends in a vowel cluster and the second element begins with a vowel or vowel cluster), how is this sequence dealt with?|']]am ku [[Naeso/Names#jim_henry|Jaeku]] va zaevu.===
-write-morpheme_boundary-PROG AGT name PAT sentence
+write-MB-PROG A Jim P sentence
 {{V|jim_henry is writing a sentence.|JH=y|FH=y}}
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 ===Lavao[[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#present tense|su]] ku [[Naeso/Names#jim_henry|Jaeku]] va zaevu.===
-write-PRS jim (what?) sentence
+write-PRS Jim P sentence
 {{V|Jim's writing a sentence.|BF=y|JH=n|FH=y}}
 ===Zelthizo ku lynh va do.===
-make-INCEPT AGT we.inclusive PAT language
+make-INC A we;INCL P language
 {{V|We are beginning to make a language.|JH=y|BF=y|FH=y}}
 ===Eana pan pae!===
-hello FOC 2SG.IRC.new
+hello FOC 2SG;NEW
 {{V|Hello! (said to someone who's just joined the chat)|JH=y|BF=y|FH=y}}
 ===Kal pan tha!===
-goodbye FOC 2SG.IRC.old
+goodbye FOC 2SG;OLD
 {{V|Goodbye! (said to someone who's been on the chat for a while)|JH=y|BF=y|FH=y}}
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 ===Zelthija ku si va jan.===
-make-PERF AGT I PAT word
+make-PRF A 1SG P word
 {{V|I have (just) made a word/words.|JH=y|FH=y}}
 ===Sunhsa[[Naeso/Phonology#If a compound or derived word would have a sequence of three or four vowels (if e.g. the first element ends in a vowel cluster and the second element begins with a vowel or vowel cluster), how is this sequence dealt with?|']]am ku si va silzu.===
-edit-morpheme_boundary-PROG AGT I PAT page
+edit-MB-PROG A 1SG P page
 {{V|I am editing the (wiki) page.|JH=y|FH=y}}
 ===Souzo dakai sifi.===
-be-INCEPT network unreliable
+be-INC network unreliable
 {{V|The network has become unreliable.|JH=n|FH=n}}
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 ===Souzo bu dakai pan sifi.===
-be-INCEPT TOP network FOC unreliable
+be-INC TOP network FOC unreliable
 {{V|The network has become unreliable.|JH=y|FH=y}}
 ===[[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#to contain|tseltsinh]] [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#full|sinte]] syn [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#hovercraft|kunoy'apfe]] pan [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#eel|tthaiki]]un.===
-contain full in vehicle-morpheme_boundary-hover FOC eel-PL
+contain full in vehicle-MB-hover FOC eel-PL
 {{V|My hovercraft is full of eels.|FH=y|JH=y}}
 *This is an example of redundancy in Naeso: ''tseltsinh syn'' could be replaced by ''tseltsinh bu'' or ''sou syn'', but "Let usage define meaning" applies.
-===Jia ku y pan onan [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#exclusive or / unless|pfe]] bam Inhthaja bu [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#public transportation vehicle|kunoy pimum]], bam [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#to sit|Mansu]] [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#locative preposition|so]] inna?===
+===Jia ku y panli onan [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#exclusive or / unless|pfe]] bam Inhthaja bu [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#public transportation vehicle|kunoy pimum]], bam [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#to sit|Mansu]] [[Naeso/Dictionary/Proposed words#locative preposition|so]] inna?===
-Speak AGT you(SG) FOC man or(EXCL) SUBORD enter-PERF PAT vehicle public, SUBORD sit LOC that?
+Speak A 2SG FOC-Q man or;EXCL REL enter-PRF P vehicle public, REL sit LOC that
 {{V|Are you talking about the man who just entered the subway or about the man who is sitting there?|FH=y}}
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