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Revision as of 14:53, 14 March 2010
The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.
More Specific Rules
Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.
Participants
Current Participants
- Kenner Gordon
- Shair Ahmed
- Kelvin Jackson
- Peter Bleackley
- Calculator Ftvb
It is Peter Bleackley's turn.
Possible Participants
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
- Karen Badham
- Benct Philip Jonsson
Former Participants
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Sound Changes
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.
Stage 1
- a: > a
- e > ɛ
- e: > e
- i > e
- i: > i
- o > ɔ
- o: > o
- u > o
- u: > u
- y > i
- y: > i
- ai > ɛ
- oi > e
- n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
- h > Ø
- w > β
- b > β / V_(V,r)
- m > Ø / _#
- m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
- (e,i) > j / _V
- u > w / _V
- VV > V
- V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
- V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV
Stage 2
- [fricative] > Ø / V_V
- n > r / V_V
- g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
- s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)
Stage 3
- (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
- s > h / #_V
- u > ʉ
- a > æ / _[+anterior]
- e > ɞ
Stage 4
- i > ʉ
- ɛ > æ
- [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
- β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
- l > λ
Stage 5
- j > λ
- (kw, gw) > (p, b)
- o > u
- (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
- u > ɯ
Stage 6
- a > ɑ / #_
- ɣ > v
- ɔ > ɤ
- (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
- λ > ʎ̥˔
Stage 7
- s > Ø / _#
- [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
- [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
- (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
- r > ʟ
Stage 8
- ʟ > l
- h > ħ / _a
- h > ç / _[front vowel]
- (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
- ɑ > ɒ
Stage 9
- l > λ > ʎ̥˔
- h > Ø
- (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
Proposals
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
- Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
- Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
- Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
- Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
- Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."
What about the verbs?
I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Declension
pɨæʎa girl f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | pɨæʎa | pɨæʎæ |
Indirect | pɨæʎæ | pɨæʎaʎɨ |
kampɨ field m. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | kampɨ | kampi |
Indirect | kampi | kampɨlɨ |
ʎæk, ʎævɛ king m. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ʎæk | ʎævɛ |
Indirect | ʎævɛ | ʎævɨ |
maro hand f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | marɨ | mari |
Indirect | mari | manɨ |
ʎɛ thing f. | ||
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Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ʎɛ | ʎɛ |
Indirect | ʎæi | ʎɛʎɨ |
First Person | Second Person | |||
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ɛvɛ I m. and f. |
nɨ we m. and f. |
ty thou m. and f. |
βɨ ye m. and f. | |
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ɛvɛ | nɨ | ti | βɨ |
Genitive | mæi | nɛsʈɨ | tɨi | βesʈɨ |
Dative | mi | nɨçi | tɛçɛ | βɨçi |
Accusative | mɛ | nɨ | tɛ | βɨ |
—, ɨi himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves | |
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Nominative | — |
Genitive | ɨi |
Dative | çɛçɛ |
Accusative | çɛ |
pæ who? m. and f. |
pæd what? n. only | |
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Singular | ||
Nominative | pæ | pæd |
Genitive | kiʎɨ | kiʎɨ |
Dative | kɨæ | kɨæ |
Accusative | pɛn | pæd |
ɛk, æk, ɛk this, this one |
ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd that, that one | |||||||||||
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Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | |||||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | ek | i | æk | æ | ɛk | æk | ɛʎɛ | ɛʎi | ɛʎa | eʎæ | ɛʎɨd | ɛʎa |
Genitive | ɨʎɨ | ɨlɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɒʎɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɨʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎɨʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎaʎɨ | ɛʎiɨ | eʎɨʎɨ |
Dative | ɨɛk | i | ɨɛk | i | ɨɛk | i | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi | ɛʎi |
Accusative | ɨnk | ɨ | ɒnk | ɒ | ɛk | æk | eʎɨ | eʎɨ | eʎa | ɒʎa | ɒʎɨd | eʎa |
Relative pronouns
pi, pæ, pɨd who, which, that | ||||||
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Masculine | Feminine | Neuter | ||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
Nominative | pi | pi | pæ | pæ | pɨd | pæ |
Genitive | kiʎɨ | pɨʎɨ | kiʎɨ | paʎɨ | kiʎɨ | pɨʎɨ |
Dative | kɨæ | piɨ | kɨæ | piɨ | kɨæ | piɨ |
Accusative | pɛn | pɨ | pan | pa | pod | pæ |
Conjugation
Indicative mood, active voice, present tense | ||||||||
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portāre | terrēre | petere | audīre | |||||
Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | Singular | Plural | |
First Person | pɤrtɯ | pɤrtamɯ | tærræɯ | tærrɛmɯ | pæsɯ | pæsimɯ | auzæɯ | auzimɯ |
Second Person | pɤrta | ppɤrtasɛ | tærrɛ | tærrɛsɛ | pæsɛ | pæsœsœ | auzy | auzisɛ |
Third Person | pɤrtat | pɤrtant | tærræt | tærrænt | pæsɛt | pæsint | auzɛt | auzæɯnt |