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| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎa
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎy
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| pɨæʎa  || pɨæʎæ
|}
|}


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| kampɨ || kampi
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| kampɨ || kampɨ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| kampæ || kampi
|}
|}


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| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ
|-
 
! '''Dative'''
| ʎævi || ʎævɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ʎævæ || ʎævɛɨ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| læk || lævɛ
|}
|}


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| marɨ || mari
| marɨ || mari
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
| mari || manɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| marɨi || marɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| mari || marɛɨ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| manɨ || mani
|}
|}


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| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ʎɛn || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛɨ
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
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! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| mɛ || nɨçi || tɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| —— || —— || ti || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2" | '''''ɛ''<br />he, they m.
! colspan="2" | '''''æa''<br />she, they f.
! colspan="2" | '''''ɛd''<br />it, they n.
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛ || ɛi || æa || ææ || ɛd || æa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| æʎɨ || æɨʎɨ || æʎɨ || æaʎɨ || æʎɨ || æɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| æi || æi || æi || æi || æi || æi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| æɨ || æɨ || æa || æa || ɛd || æa
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| æɨ || æi || æa || æi || æɨ || æi
|-
|-
|}
|}
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|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| çɛ
| çɛ
|-
|-
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| pɛn || pæd
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨ || pɨ
|-
|-
|}
|}
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! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ɨk || i || ɒk || i || ɨk || i || eʎɨ || ɛʎi || eʎa || ɛʎi || eʎɨ || ɛʎi
|-
|-
|}
|}
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! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨ || piɨ || pa || piɨ || pɨ || piɨ
|-
|-
|}
|}

Revision as of 14:52, 14 March 2010

The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

It is Peter Bleackley's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

  • Karen Badham
  • Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

—

Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

  • a: > a
  • e > ɛ
  • e: > e
  • i > e
  • i: > i
  • o > ɔ
  • o: > o
  • u > o
  • u: > u
  • y > i
  • y: > i
  • ai > ɛ
  • oi > e
  • n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
  • h > Ø
  • w > β
  • b > β / V_(V,r)
  • m > Ø / _#
  • m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
  • (e,i) > j / _V
  • u > w / _V
  • VV > V
  • V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
  • V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

  • [fricative] > Ø / V_V
  • n > r / V_V
  • g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
  • s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

  • (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
  • s > h / #_V
  • u > ʉ
  • a > æ / _[+anterior]
  • e > ɞ

Stage 4

  • i > ʉ
  • ɛ > æ
  • [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
  • β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
  • l > λ

Stage 5

  • j > λ
  • (kw, gw) > (p, b)
  • o > u
  • (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
  • u > ɯ

Stage 6

  • a > ɑ / #_
  • ɣ > v
  • ɔ > ɤ
  • (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
  • λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

  • s > Ø / _#
  • [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
  • [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
  • (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
  • r > ʟ

Stage 8

  • ʟ > l
  • h > ħ / _a
  • h > ç / _[front vowel]
  • (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
  • ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

  • l > λ > ʎ̥˔
  • h > Ø
  • (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
  • Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
  • Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
  • Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
  • Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
  • Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

pɨæʎa
girl f.
Singular Plural
Nominative pɨæʎa pɨæʎæ
Indirect pɨæʎæ pɨæʎaʎɨ
kampɨ
field m.
Singular Plural
Nominative kampɨ kampi
Indirect kampi kampɨlɨ
ʎæk, ʎævɛ
king m.
Singular Plural
Nominative ʎæk ʎævɛ
Indirect ʎævɛ ʎævɨ
maro
hand f.
Singular Plural
Nominative marɨ mari
Indirect mari manɨ
ʎɛ
thing f.
Singular Plural
Nominative ʎɛ ʎɛ
Indirect ʎæi ʎɛʎɨ
Vocative ʎɛ ʎɛ
First Person Second Person
ɛvɛ
I m. and f. 		nɨ
we m. and f. 		ty
thou m. and f. 		βɨ
ye m. and f.
Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛvɛ nɨ ti βɨ
Genitive mæi nɛsʈɨ tɨi βesʈɨ
Dative mi nɨçi tɛçɛ βɨçi
Accusative mɛ nɨ tɛ βɨ
—, ɨi
himself, herself
itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative —
Genitive ɨi
Dative çɛçɛ
Accusative çɛ
pæ
who? m. and f. 		pæd
what? n. only
Singular
Nominative pæ pæd
Genitive kiʎɨ kiʎɨ
Dative kɨæ kɨæ
Accusative pɛn pæd
ɛk, æk, ɛk
this, this one 		ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd
that, that one
Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ek i æk æ ɛk æk ɛʎɛ ɛʎi ɛʎa eʎæ ɛʎɨd ɛʎa
Genitive ɨʎɨ ɨlɨ ɨʎɨ ɒʎɨ ɨʎɨ ɨʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎɨʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎaʎɨ ɛʎiɨ eʎɨʎɨ
Dative ɨɛk i ɨɛk i ɨɛk i ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi
Accusative ɨnk ɨ ɒnk ɒ ɛk æk eʎɨ eʎɨ eʎa ɒʎa ɒʎɨd eʎa

Relative pronouns

pi, pæ, pɨd
who, which, that
Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative pi pi pæ pæ pɨd pæ
Genitive kiʎɨ pɨʎɨ kiʎɨ paʎɨ kiʎɨ pɨʎɨ
Dative kɨæ piɨ kɨæ piɨ kɨæ piɨ
Accusative pɛn pɨ pan pa pod pæ

Conjugation

Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
portāre terrēre petere audīre
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɤrtɯ pɤrtamɯ tærræɯ tærrɛmɯ pæsɯ pæsimɯ auzæɯ auzimɯ
Second Person pɤrta ppɤrtasɛ tærrɛ tærrɛsɛ pæsɛ pæsœsœ auzy auzisɛ
Third Person pɤrtat pɤrtant tærræt tærrænt pæsɛt pæsint auzɛt auzæɯnt
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