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Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
==Declension==
==Declension==
==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɯæʎɑ <br> ''girl'' f.'''
!colspan="2"| '''pɯæʎa <br> ''girl'' f.'''
|-
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Singular'''
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|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| pɯæʎæ || pɯæʎɑrɯ
| pɯæʎæ || pɯæʎɑlɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
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|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| pɯæʎa || pɯæʎi
| pɯæʎa || pɯæʎy
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
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{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kɑmpɯ <br> ''field'' m.'''
!colspan="2"| '''kampɯ <br> ''field'' m.'''
|-
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
|-
! '''Nominative'''
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɯ || kampy
| kampɯ || kampi
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| kampy || kampɯʟɯ
| kampi || kampɯlɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
| kampɯ || kampy
| kampɯ || kampi
|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
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|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| kampɯ || kampy
| kampɯ || kampi
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
| kampæ || kampy
| kampæ || kampi
|}
|}


{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʟæk, ʟævœ <br> ''king'' m.'''
! colspan="2"| '''læk, lævɛ <br> ''king'' m.'''
|-
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Singular'''
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|-
|-
! '''Nominative'''
! '''Nominative'''
| ʟæk || ʟævœ
| læk || lævɛ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| ʟævœ || ʟævɯ
| lævɛ || lævɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
| ʟævy || ʟævœho
| lævi || lævɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| ʟævœ || ʟævœ
| lævɛ || lævɛ
|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| ʟævæ || ʟævœho
| lævæ || lævɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
| ʟæk || ʟævœ
| læk || lævɛ
|}
|}


{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''mɑno <br> ''hand'' f.'''
! colspan="2"| '''maro <br> ''hand'' f.'''
|-
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Singular'''
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|-
|-
! '''Nominative'''
! '''Nominative'''
| mano || mɑni
| marɯ || mari
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| mani || manho
| mari || manhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
| manoi || manɛho
| marɯi || marɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| mano || mani
| marɯ || mari
|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| mani || manɛho
| mari || marɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
| mano || mani
| manɯ || mani
|}
|}


{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''rɛ <br> ''thing'' f.'''
! colspan="2"| '''lɛ <br> ''thing'' f.'''
|-
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Singular'''
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|-
|-
! '''Nominative'''
! '''Nominative'''
| ʟɛ || ʟɛ
| lɛ || lɛ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| ʟæi || ʟɛʟo
| læi || lɛlɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
| ʟæi || ʟɛho
| læi || lɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| ʟɛ || ʟɛ
| lɛn || lɛ
|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| ʟɛ || ʟɛho
| lɛ || lɛhɯ
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
| ʟɛ || ʟɛ
| lɛ || lɛ
|}
|}


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! colspan="1" | '''''œvɤ''<br /> I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''œvɤ''<br /> I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɯ''<br /> we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɯ''<br /> we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ti''<br /> thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty''<br /> thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɯ''<br /> ye m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɯ''<br /> ye m. and f.'''
|-
|-
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|-
|-
! '''Nominative'''
! '''Nominative'''
| œvɤ || nɯ || ti || βɯ
| ɛvɤ || nɯ || ti || βɯ
|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nosʈɯ || toi || βesʈɯ
| mæi || nɤsʈɯ || tɯi || βesʈɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
| my || nɯhi || tɛhɛ || βɯhi
| mi || nɯçi || tɛçɛ || βɯçi
|-
|-
! '''Accusative'''
! '''Accusative'''
| mœ || nɯ || tɛ || βɯ
| mɛ || nɯ || tɛ || βɯ
|-
|-
! '''Ablative'''
! '''Ablative'''
| mœ || nɯhi || tɛ || βɯhi
| mɛ || nɯçi || tɛ || βɯçi
|-
|-
! '''Vocative'''
! '''Vocative'''
| —— || —— || tɛ || βɯhi
| —— || —— || ti || βɯ
|-
|-
|}
|}
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|-
|-
! '''Genitive'''
! '''Genitive'''
| æʎɯ || æɯʟɯ || æʎɯ || æaʟɯ || æʎɯ || æɯʟɯ
| æʎɯ || æɯlɯ || æʎɯ || æalɯ || æʎɯ || æɯlɯ
|-
|-
! '''Dative'''
! '''Dative'''
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|-
|-
|}
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, hɯi'''''<br />himself, herself<br />itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| hɯi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ''<br />who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd''<br />what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɯ || kiʎɯ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɯæ || kɯæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɯ || pɯ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɤk''<br /> this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɯd''<br /> that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɤk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɯd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɯʎɯ || ɯlɯ || ɯʎɯ || ɑʎɯ || ɯʎɯ || ɯʎɯ || ɛʎiɯ || eʎɯlɯ || ɛʎiɯ || eʎalɯ || ɛʎiɯ || eʎɯlɯ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɯɛk || i || ɯɛk || i || ɯɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɯnk || ɯ || ɑnk || ɑ || ɤk || æk || eʎɯ || eʎɯ || eʎa || aʎa || aʎɯd || eʎa
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ɯk || i || ɑk || i || ɯk || i || eʎɯ || ɛʎi || eʎa || ɛʎi || eʎɯ || ɛʎi
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɯd''<br />who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɯd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɯ || pɯlɯ || kiʎɯ || palɯ || kiʎɯ || pɯʎɯ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɯæ || pihɯ || kɯæ || pihɯ || kɯæ || pihɯ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɯ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɯ || pihɯ || pa || pihɯ || pɯ || pihɯ
|-
|}


==Conjugation==
==Conjugation==

Revision as of 11:32, 11 March 2010

The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

It is Peter Bleackley's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

  • Karen Badham
  • Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

  • a: > a
  • e > ɛ
  • e: > e
  • i > e
  • i: > i
  • o > ɔ
  • o: > o
  • u > o
  • u: > u
  • y > i
  • y: > i
  • ai > ɛ
  • oi > e
  • n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
  • h > Ø
  • w > β
  • b > β / V_(V,r)
  • m > Ø / _#
  • m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
  • (e,i) > j / _V
  • u > w / _V
  • VV > V
  • V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
  • V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

  • [fricative] > Ø / V_V
  • n > r / V_V
  • g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
  • s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

  • (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
  • s > h / #_V
  • u > ʉ
  • a > æ / _[+anterior]
  • e > ɞ

Stage 4

  • i > ʉ
  • ɛ > æ
  • [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
  • β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
  • l > λ

Stage 5

  • j > λ
  • (kw, gw) > (p, b)
  • o > u
  • (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
  • u > ɯ

Stage 6

  • a > ɑ / #_
  • ɣ > v
  • ɔ > ɤ
  • (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
  • λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

  • s > Ø / _#
  • [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
  • [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
  • (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
  • r > ʟ

Stage 8

  • ʟ > l
  • h > ħ / _a
  • h > ç / _[front vowel]

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

Declension

pɯæʎa
girl f.
Singular Plural
Nominative pɯæʎa pɯæʎæ
Genitive pɯæʎæ pɯæʎɑlɯ
Dative pɯæʎæ pɯæʎi
Accusative pɯæʎa pɯæʎa
Ablative pɯæʎa pɯæʎy
Vocative pɯæʎa pɯæʎæ
kampɯ
field m.
Singular Plural
Nominative kampɯ kampi
Genitive kampi kampɯlɯ
Dative kampɯ kampi
Accusative kampɯ kampɯ
Ablative kampɯ kampi
Vocative kampæ kampi
læk, lævɛ
king m.
Singular Plural
Nominative læk lævɛ
Genitive lævɛ lævɯ
Dative lævi lævɛhɯ
Accusative lævɛ lævɛ
Ablative lævæ lævɛhɯ
Vocative læk lævɛ
maro
hand f.
Singular Plural
Nominative marɯ mari
Genitive mari manhɯ
Dative marɯi marɛhɯ
Accusative marɯ mari
Ablative mari marɛhɯ
Vocative manɯ mani
lɛ
thing f.
Singular Plural
Nominative lɛ lɛ
Genitive læi lɛlɯ
Dative læi lɛhɯ
Accusative lɛn lɛ
Ablative lɛ lɛhɯ
Vocative lɛ lɛ
First Person Second Person
œvɤ
I m. and f. 		nɯ
we m. and f. 		ty
thou m. and f. 		βɯ
ye m. and f.
Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛvɤ nɯ ti βɯ
Genitive mæi nɤsʈɯ tɯi βesʈɯ
Dative mi nɯçi tɛçɛ βɯçi
Accusative mɛ nɯ tɛ βɯ
Ablative mɛ nɯçi tɛ βɯçi
Vocative —— —— ti βɯ
ɛ
he, they m. 		æa
she, they f. 		ɛd
it, they n.
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ɛ ɛi æa ææ ɛd æa
Genitive æʎɯ æɯlɯ æʎɯ æalɯ æʎɯ æɯlɯ
Dative æi æi æi æi æi æi
Accusative æɯ æɯ æa æa ɛd æa
Vocative - - - - - -
Ablative æɯ æi æa æi æɯ æi
—, hɯi
himself, herself
itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative —
Genitive hɯi
Dative çɛçɛ
Accusative çɛ
Vocative -
Ablative çɛ
pæ
who? m. and f. 		pæd
what? n. only
Singular
Nominative pæ pæd
Genitive kiʎɯ kiʎɯ
Dative kɯæ kɯæ
Accusative pɛn pæd
Vocative - -
Ablative pɯ pɯ
ɛk, æk, ɤk
this, this one 		ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɯd
that, that one
Masculine Feminine Neuter Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative ek i æk æ ɤk æk ɛʎɛ ɛʎi ɛʎa eʎæ ɛʎɯd ɛʎa
Genitive ɯʎɯ ɯlɯ ɯʎɯ ɑʎɯ ɯʎɯ ɯʎɯ ɛʎiɯ eʎɯlɯ ɛʎiɯ eʎalɯ ɛʎiɯ eʎɯlɯ
Dative ɯɛk i ɯɛk i ɯɛk i ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi ɛʎi
Accusative ɯnk ɯ ɑnk ɑ ɤk æk eʎɯ eʎɯ eʎa aʎa aʎɯd eʎa
Vocative - - - - - - - - - - - -
Ablative ɯk i ɑk i ɯk i eʎɯ ɛʎi eʎa ɛʎi eʎɯ ɛʎi

Relative pronouns

pi, pæ, pɯd
who, which, that
Masculine Feminine Neuter
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
Nominative pi pi pæ pæ pɯd pæ
Genitive kiʎɯ pɯlɯ kiʎɯ palɯ kiʎɯ pɯʎɯ
Dative kɯæ pihɯ kɯæ pihɯ kɯæ pihɯ
Accusative pɛn pɯ pan pa pod pæ
Vocative - - - - - -
Ablative pɯ pihɯ pa pihɯ pɯ pihɯ


Conjugation

Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
portāre terrēre petere audīre
Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural Singular Plural
First Person pɤrtɯ pɤrtamɯ tærræɯ tærrœmɯ pæsɯ pæsymɯ auzæɯ auzymɯ
Second Person pɤrta ppɤrtasœ tærrœ tærrœsœ pæsœ pæsœsœ auzy auzysœ
Third Person pɤrtat pɤrtant tærræt tærrænt pæsœt pæsynt auzœt auzæɯnt
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