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even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2> | even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2> | ||
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same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ̃²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2> | same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ̃²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2> | ||
- [[User:Myriaddestiny]] 07 July 2023 | - [[User:Myriaddestiny]] 07 July 2023 | ||
:The ɦ > dʑ is likely a typo. Nevertheless, I changed the article so that Shanghainese is the main representative for Wu due to the availability of data that I have. Hopefully the updated notes on its sound changes are more accurate this time. --[[User:Excusememoi|Excusememoi]] ([[User talk:Excusememoi|talk]]) 20:53, 4 August 2024 (PDT) | |||
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Unfortunately I do not have the data for Middle Korean. Linguoboy might. - 振霖T 05:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I made my own proposal for Middle chinese phonology: v1 (probably closer to early middle chinese): [1], v2 (probably closer to late middle chinese): [2]
Suzhou Wu sound changes
> Wu — Suzhou The following recent sound changes apply but are omitted to reduce clutter:
> [k kʰ g h ɦ n] > [tɕ tɕʰ dʑ ɕ dʑ ȵ] / _[i,j,y,ɥ]
can anyone provide examples for the ɦ > dʑ change?
As far as I can tell, according to Wugniu.com and wu-chinese.com/minidict, in Suzhou Wu /ɦ/ followed by any glide just treats that glide as an onset.
e.g. 系 /ɦiʲ²¹³/ -> [ji̝²¹³] <yi6> (c.f. Mandarin <xi4>)
现 /ɦiɪ²¹³/ -> [ji²¹³] <ye6> (c.f. Mandarin <xian4>
云 /ɦyn²²³/ -> [jyn ~ ɥin] <yun2>
even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2> t same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ̃²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2>
- User:Myriaddestiny 07 July 2023
- The ɦ > dʑ is likely a typo. Nevertheless, I changed the article so that Shanghainese is the main representative for Wu due to the availability of data that I have. Hopefully the updated notes on its sound changes are more accurate this time. --Excusememoi (talk) 20:53, 4 August 2024 (PDT)
