Talk:Chinese sound correspondences: Difference between revisions

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Unfortunately I do not have the data for Middle Korean. Linguoboy might. - 振霖_T 05:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I made my own proposal for Middle chinese phonology: v1: [1], v2: [2]

> Wu — Suzhou The following recent sound changes apply but are omitted to reduce clutter:

> [k kʰ g h ɦ n] > [tɕ tɕʰ dʑ ɕ dʑ ȵ] / _[i,j,y,ɥ]

can anyone provide examples for the ɦ > dʑ change?

As far as I can tell, according to Wugniu.com and wu-chinese.com/minidict, in Suzhou Wu /ɦ/ followed by any glide just treats that glide as an onset.

e.g. 系 /ɦiʲ²¹³/ -> [ji̝²¹³] <yi6> (c.f. Mandarin <xi4>)

现 /ɦiɪ²¹³/ -> [ji²¹³] <ye6> (c.f. Mandarin <xian4>

云 /ɦyn²²³/ -> [jyn ~ ɥin] <yun2>

even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2>

same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2>

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 I made my own proposal for Middle chinese phonology: v1: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwbX-mW8kGejxqDJ-mjZI_O3wll3W_oOG4JYuwrLusM/edit?usp=sharing], v2: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R40S-rf4OFJIR10hhyj9-y8V9XSEJsooPLJUX-myQbU/edit?usp=sharing]
+== Suzhou Wu sound changes ==
+> Wu — Suzhou The following recent sound changes apply but are omitted to reduce clutter:
+>  [k kʰ g h ɦ n] > [tɕ tɕʰ dʑ ɕ dʑ ȵ] / _[i,j,y,ɥ]
+can anyone provide examples for the ɦ > dʑ change?
+As far as I can tell, according to Wugniu.com and wu-chinese.com/minidict, in Suzhou Wu /ɦ/ followed by any glide just treats that glide as an onset.
+e.g. 系 /ɦiʲ²¹³/ -> [ji̝²¹³] <yi6> (c.f. Mandarin <xi4>)
+现 /ɦiɪ²¹³/ -> [ji²¹³] <ye6> (c.f. Mandarin <xian4>
+云 /ɦyn²²³/ -> [jyn ~ ɥin] <yun2>
+even more complex, something like 懸 *ɦyan /ɦi̯ø²²³/ -> [jø̱²²³] (c.f. Mandarin <xuan2>
+same with the labial /u~w/ medial glide. 皇 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <waon2>, 华 /ɦu̯ɑ²²³/ <wa2>, 还 /ɦu̯ᴇ/ <we2>