User talk:Muke

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LOL. This is Trebor Jung of Conlang. Is this Wiki for your own personal use or can anyone post stuff on their conlangs and/or conworlds? You can reply to me at treborjung at free dot fr. Thanks.

Anyone can feel free to post here. :x) —Muke Tever | ✎ 11:32, 24 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Trebor again. How do you make tables in Wikipedia? I've seen examples but they look complicated... Thanks. 28 June 2004 14:55 EST

If you know how, you can use HTML to make tables. Otherwise, there is a simpler wiki table markup described in brief at FrathWiki:How does one edit a page, and a detailed description of a the table formats the wiki understands at MediaWiki User's Guide: Using tables. If that's still not clear, you could mark what needs tabulated, and I could give working on it a shot. —Muke Tever | ✎ 13:16, 28 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Thanks. Please make tables at Kasin for consonants and vowels (please add place of articulation; you can delete the X-Sampa representation), and at Kosi for these: Consonants, Vowels, (again please add POA), Cases, Possession, Demonstratives, Aspects, Moods, Voices, Derivation, and Lexicon . Much appreciated!

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I tried creating a table for Kosi's vowels. How does it look? (Because I'm visually impaired I can't actually check it myself.) --Trebor, 29 June 2004, 18:00 EST

It looks all right, except the purpose of the rounded / unrounded line confuses me — the way it lines up it shows "Unrounded" in the same column as "Mid", and "Rounded" in the same column as "Front" (so that i and e seem to be classed as front rounded vowels). I'd fix it now but I can't quite make out which cells "Rounded" and "Unrounded" are intended to head (it might need a little more reformatting). —Muke Tever | ✎ 15:30, 29 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Whoops. Here are Kosi's vowels and their X-Sampa equivalents: i /i/, ü /y/, û /M/, u /u/, e /e/, ö /2/, y /@/, jo /jo/, ô /7/, o /o/, a /a/, ja /ja/. And could you also help me with tables for Kosi Cases, Possession, Demonstratives, Aspects, Moods, Voices, Derivation, and Lexicon (Lexicon headings: Kosi, Etymology, English; you can remove the brackets and < for the etymology. Also, could you make a vowel table and grammatical structures table at Kasin. Thanks! Or if you like, I'll try making tables and you can check them? --Trebor, 12:27 EST, 30 June 2004

I'm working on them by and by. —Muke Tever | ✎ 11:53, 30 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Oh, I see.

How come when I enter in an accent with Alt codes (e.g. o-trema alt+0246), the page goes out of forms mode without having saved my changes? Annoying. --Trebor, 19:24, 30 June 2004

My guess is your number lock is off, thus instead of the alt-46 at the end it's reading it as alt-left and alt-right (go back a page, then go forward again) — if I do that in IE it will erase changes that I've made. If that's not the problem, I'm not sure offhand what else it could be. —Muke Tever | ✎ 17:51, 30 Jun 2004 (PDT)

That's strange, I just tried alt+0246 and it worked. But my numb lock was on when I noticed this problem yesterday too (AFAIK)... --Trebor, 08:57 EST, 1 July 2004

The wrong version loads

The Sisiwön article mentions it is a collaborative conlang. In the group for discussing it, Alex Fink mentioned he added to it, but he additions aren't on the page. I thot maybe the Recent Changes page might give a link to the new version, but it doesn't work. On the Recent Changes page I also noticed you added a Lexicon table to Kosi, but it's not on that page. I went to edit the page, but the table formatting exists in the Edit This Page box, so why not in the actual article? This is very puzzling. --Trebor, 09:52 EST, 2 July 2004

My guess is that your browser is loading from its cache instead of the server. Try a hard reload (usually shift-F5) when you view a page, and see if that helps. —Muke Tever | ✎ 07:08, 2 Jul 2004 (PDT)

Even more puzzling, I edited Sisiwön and Kosi, and the changes appeared in the articles :O --Trebor, 11:04, 2 July 2004 EST

Problem with Table

Sisiwön has a consonant table but it won't show up properly in the article. Why won't it work? --Trebor, 21:17, 2 July 2004 EST

It should be fixed now. The table had been begun with pipe then open-brace "|{", instead of open-brace then pipe "{|", so it wasn't interpreting it as a table. —Muke Tever | ✎ 18:25, 2 Jul 2004 (PDT)