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'''Macro-Indo-European''' is a term sometimes used for a hypothetical [[language family]] consisting of [[Indo-European]] and various unknown extinct languages (usually called ''Para-Indo-European'') presumed to be related to it.  It is not common usage to apply the term to a proposed family consisting of Indo-European and one or more ''known'' languages. Rather, binary comparisons involving Indo-European and one other family are usually named by prefixing "Indo-" to the name of the other entity, such as [[Indo-Uralic]], [[Indo-Semitic]] or [[Indo-Tyrrhenian]]. Larger groups, involving more than one known non-Indo-European group, are usually named otherwise, such as [[Nostratic]], [[Eurasiatic]] or [[Mitian]].
'''Macro-Indo-European''' is a term sometimes used for a hypothetical [[language family]] consisting of [[Indo-European]] and various unknown extinct languages (usually called ''Para-Indo-European'') presumed to be related to it.  It is not common usage to apply the term to a proposed family consisting of Indo-European and one or more ''known'' languages. Rather, binary comparisons involving Indo-European and one other family are usually named by prefixing "Indo-" to the name of the other entity, such as [[Indo-Uralic]], [[Indo-Semitic]] or [[Indo-Tyrrhenian]]. Larger groups, involving more than one known non-Indo-European group, are usually named otherwise, such as [[Nostratic]], [[Eurasiatic]] or [[Mitian]].


==Jörg Rhiemeier's concept of Macro-Indo-European==
==Jörg Rhiemeier's concept of Macro-Indo-European (obsolete)==


[[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]] speculates that the known Indo-European languages may have had unknown relatives, such as the [[Aquan languages]] which he postulates on the basis of the [[Old European hydronymy]]. The Macro-Indo-European family would thus consist of Indo-European proper, Aquan and perhaps further languages.  He also coined the terms ''Micro-Indo-European'' for the non-Anatolian IE languages and ''Meso-Indo-European'' for the group consisting of Micro-Indo-European and Anatolian (and perhaps unknown Para-Anatolian languages). In this model, Macro-Indo-European corresponds to the first, Meso-Indo-European to the second, and Micro-Indo-European to the third Kurgan migration.
[[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]] speculated that the known Indo-European languages may have had unknown relatives, such as the [[Aquan languages]] which he postulates on the basis of the [[Old European hydronymy]]. The Macro-Indo-European family would thus consist of Indo-European proper, Aquan and perhaps further languages.  He also coined the terms ''Micro-Indo-European'' for the non-Anatolian IE languages and ''Meso-Indo-European'' for the group consisting of Micro-Indo-European and Anatolian (and perhaps unknown Para-Anatolian languages). In this model, Macro-Indo-European corresponds to the first, Meso-Indo-European to the second, and Micro-Indo-European to the third Kurgan migration.


The resulting family tree looks like this:
The resulting family tree looks like this:
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:* possible further unknown languages
:* possible further unknown languages


Rhiemeier explores the unknown languages in this scheme in his conlangs (see [[Hesperic]]).
As of January 26, 2019, he no longer holds this position. Instead, he now considers Aquan ("re-created" in [[Hesperic]]) to be a branch of Indo-European coordinate with Anatolian and Late PIE (the common ancestor of the known non-Anatolian IE languages.


==See also==
==See also==

Revision as of 09:03, 26 January 2019

Macro-Indo-European is a term sometimes used for a hypothetical language family consisting of Indo-European and various unknown extinct languages (usually called Para-Indo-European) presumed to be related to it. It is not common usage to apply the term to a proposed family consisting of Indo-European and one or more known languages. Rather, binary comparisons involving Indo-European and one other family are usually named by prefixing "Indo-" to the name of the other entity, such as Indo-Uralic, Indo-Semitic or Indo-Tyrrhenian. Larger groups, involving more than one known non-Indo-European group, are usually named otherwise, such as Nostratic, Eurasiatic or Mitian.

Jörg Rhiemeier's concept of Macro-Indo-European (obsolete)

Jörg Rhiemeier speculated that the known Indo-European languages may have had unknown relatives, such as the Aquan languages which he postulates on the basis of the Old European hydronymy. The Macro-Indo-European family would thus consist of Indo-European proper, Aquan and perhaps further languages. He also coined the terms Micro-Indo-European for the non-Anatolian IE languages and Meso-Indo-European for the group consisting of Micro-Indo-European and Anatolian (and perhaps unknown Para-Anatolian languages). In this model, Macro-Indo-European corresponds to the first, Meso-Indo-European to the second, and Micro-Indo-European to the third Kurgan migration.

The resulting family tree looks like this:

  • Macro-Indo-European
  • Meso-Indo-European
  • Micro-Indo-European
  • all known non-Anatolian IE languages
  • Anatolian
  • hypothetical para-Anatolian languages
  • Aquan
  • possible further unknown languages

As of January 26, 2019, he no longer holds this position. Instead, he now considers Aquan ("re-created" in Hesperic) to be a branch of Indo-European coordinate with Anatolian and Late PIE (the common ancestor of the known non-Anatolian IE languages.

See also

  • Hesperic - Jörg Rhiemeier's conlang family based thereon
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