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The '''League of Lost Languages''' ('''LLL''') is a collaborative project about
The '''League of Lost Languages''' ('''LLL''') was a kind of collaborative fiction-writing project in which the participants described [[fictional language]]s that could exist or could once have existed in a world otherwise the same as the real world we all live in. The idea was that in the LLL world, some languages survived that died out in our world, without changing the world more than necessary to accomodate the languages in question. The LLL world is essentially our world with the same history and geography, just with a few extra languages.
the survival of languages that existed or could have existed in
the world we live in, but disappeared without leaving any living
descendants. The idea is that in the LLL world, some languages
survived that died out here, without changing the world more than
necessary to accomodate the languages in question. The LLL world
is essentially our world with the same history and geography,
just with a few extra languages.


Examples include European languages of pre-Indo-European origin, modern East Germanic languages, fictional branches of
This is a kind of "what-if" [[conworld]], i.e. a ''fictional'' version of our world in which the change from reality is limited to the existence of a few extra languages. Examples of such "lost" languages include European languages of pre-Indo-European origin, modern East Germanic languages, fictional branches of Indo-European, sister groups of real-world families and isolates, etc. Of course, this is not limited to Europe. An LLL language could be yet another of the many diverse languages of the North American Pacific coast, a modern-day descendant of Sumerian or a pre-Bantu language in the Congo basin. It is also not ultimately necessary that the languages are spoken today; they might be extinct but having left written records.
Indo-European, sister groups of real-world families and isolates, etc. Of course, this is not limited to Europe. An LLL language could
be yet another of the many diverse languages of the North American Pacific coast, a modern-day descendant of Sumerian or a
pre-Bantu language in the Congo basin. It is also not ultimately necessary that the languages are spoken today; they might be extinct
but having left written records.


The participants would contribute their conlangs, say where and when they are spoken, and write fake scholarly papers and similar
The participants would contribute their [[conlang]]s, say where and when they are spoken, and write fake scholarly papers and similar stuff about them.
stuff about them.  


A language contributed to the LLL must fulfill the following criteria:
''This is '''not''' a research project about actually existing languages!  The languages described by our members are '''entirely fictional'''.''  We all do this ''just for fun''; we just love messing around with fictional languages.


# It is ''naturalistic'', i.e. it is plausible as a human language.
A language contributed to the LLL had to fulfill the following criteria:
 
# It is ''naturalistic'', i.e. it is plausible as a human language. (Or it represents a constructed language, e.g. an auxlang, ''within'' the fictional setting.)
# It is ''spoken by humans''; non-human races (even Neanderthal survivals etc.) are out of bounds. (The [[Elves]] and [[Dwarves]] speaking [[Albic]] and [[Razaric]] are no exception to this: they are humans, not the usual fantasy races.)  
# It is ''spoken by humans''; non-human races (even Neanderthal survivals etc.) are out of bounds. (The [[Elves]] and [[Dwarves]] speaking [[Albic]] and [[Razaric]] are no exception to this: they are humans, not the usual fantasy races.)  
# Its ''history is consistent'' with the known history of the real world. This means that all the major events are the same as in our world. This rule puts limits on conculturing, but it also helps avoiding awkward political and religious debates, and concentrating on the languages.  
# Its ''history is consistent'' with the known history of the real world. This means that all the major events are the same as in our world. This rule puts limits on conculturing, but it also helps avoiding awkward political and religious debates, and concentrating on the languages.  
# It is either ''extinct'' (having left behind written records) or spoken by a community ''small'' enough not to make a difference. (This is pretty much an implication of the criterion above.)
# It is either ''extinct'' (having left behind written records) or spoken by a community ''small'' enough not to make a difference. (This is pretty much an implication of the criterion above.)


The LLL conducts its business on the [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs lostlangs mailing list].
Unfortunately, the LLL is now defunct.
 
==Languages of the LLL==


==The languages of the LLL==
This list is out of date and incomplete!


{|
{| class="wikitable"
!Language
!Language
!Family
!Location
!Location
!Author
!Author
|-
|-
| [[Albic]] family
| [[Albic]] family
|style="background-color:#CCFF00"| [[Hesperic]]<br>&nbsp;Albic
| British Isles
| British Isles
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
|-
|-
| [[Channel Island Siouxan]]
| [[Alpianic]] family
| Channel Islands
|style="background-color:#CCFF00"| [[Hesperic]]
| [[Kuroda]]
| Switzerland
| The group
|-
| [[Alpic]]
|style="background-color:#B5EAAA"| [[Danubian]]
| Switzerland
| [[User:TaylorS|Taylor Selseth]]
|-
| [[Attidian]]
|style="background-color:#CCFF00"| [[Hesperic]]
| Italy
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
|-
|-
| [[Continental English]]
| [[Continental English]]
| Germany?
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Germanic
| Angel
| Unknown (Europe)
| [[:User:Jashan|Jashan A'al]]
|-
| [[Çomyopregi]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European
| Europe
| [[User:Damatir ando|Damátir Ando]]
|-
| [[Eteonoric]] family
|style="background-color:#DEFFDE"| Eteonoric
| Austria
| The group
|-
|-
| [[Føtisk]]
| [[Føtisk]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Germanic
| Denmark
| Denmark
| Tristan McLeay
| Tristan McLeay
|-
| [[Fusangese]]
| Mexico
| [[Kuroda]]
|-
| [[Germanech]]
| Trier, Germany
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
|-
|-
| [[Hairo]]
| [[Hairo]]
|style="background-color:#DEDEDE"| isolate
| Rügen, Germany
| Rügen, Germany
| Christian Thalmann
| Christian Thalmann
|-
|-
| [[Hattic]]
| [[Hattic]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European
| Russia
| Russia
| [[User:IJzeren Jan|Jan van Steenbergen]]
| [[User:IJzeren Jan|Jan van Steenbergen]]
|-
|-
| [[Hifahoshaj]]
| [[Hifahoshaj]]
|style="background-color:#DEDEDE"| isolate
| Texas
| Texas
| Bob Thornton
| Bob Thornton
|-
| [[Kilda Kelen]]
|style="background-color:#9ADC32"| Tungusic
| Kamchatka Peninsula
| [[Kuroda]]
|-
|-
| [[Kuman Tyli]]
| [[Kuman Tyli]]
|style="background-color:#9ADC32"| Turkic
| Russia/Ukraine
| Russia/Ukraine
| Isaac Penzev
| Isaac Penzev
|-
|-
| [[li~Rumaninu]]
| [[li~Rumaninu]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Romance
| Congo
| Congo
| Patrick Dunn
| Patrick Dunn
|-
| [[Lu]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European
| Southern France and Northern Italy
| [[User:Humancadaver101|Schwhatever]]
|-
|-
| [[Mærik]]
| [[Mærik]]
|style="background-color:#DEDEDE"| isolate
| Sweden
| Sweden
| [[User:Melroch|Benct Philip Jonsson]]
| [[User:Melroch|Benct Philip Jonsson]]
|-
| [[Neo-Khitanese]]
| Kamchatka Peninsula
| [[Kuroda]]
|-
| [[Noric]] family
| Austria
| the group
|-
|-
| [[Orinoco English]]
| [[Orinoco English]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Germanic
| Venezuela
| Venezuela
| Rodlox R
| Rodlox R
|-
| [[Outidic]]
|style="background-color:#FFFFFF"| auxlang
| &nbsp;
| Raymond A. Brown
|-
|-
| [[Razaric]] family
| [[Razaric]] family
| British Isles
|style="background-color:#DEDEDE"| isolate
| Scotland
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
|-
| [[Roman Germanech]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Romance
| Odenwald, Germany
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
| [[User:WeepingElf|Jörg Rhiemeier]]
|-
| [[Rugian]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European<br>&nbsp;Slavic
| Rügen, Germany
| Piotr Gepfert
|-
| [[Tallarmen]]
|style="background-color:#9ADC32"| Turkic
| Siberia
| Kiwipedia
|-
|-
| [[Thagojian]]
| [[Thagojian]]
|style="background-color:#7CFC00"| Indo-European
| Egypt/Palestine/Israel
| Egypt/Palestine/Israel
| Paul Bennett
| Paul Bennett
|}
==Seleted articles from the lostlangs list==
{|
! Date
! Author
! Title
|-
| 2004/07/03
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/9 Some thoughts about the linguistic landscape of Europe]
|-
| 2004/07/03
| Christian Thalmann
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/12 Hairo Script Brainstorming]
|-
| 2004/07/05
| Patrick Dunn
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/22 li~Rumaninu]
|-
| 2004/07/10
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/39 pre-Homo sapiens languages; Vinca script]
|-
| 2004/07/10
| Bob Thornton
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/44 Hifahos^aj]
|-
| 2004/07/19
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/72 The British Isles Linguistic Area]
|-
| 2004/07/22
| Isaac Penzev
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/75 First info about Kuman Tyli]
|-
| 2004/07/22
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/77 Some facts about Caucasian languages]
|-
| 2004/07/23
| Christian Thalmann
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/78 Hairo Grammar Brainstorm]
|-
| 2004/09/04
| Bob Thornton
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/139 Possessives within Hifahoshach]
|-
| 2004/09/12
| Bob Thornton
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/178 Hifahoshach Verb Conjugation]
|-
| 2004/10/03
| panchakahq
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/197 Turkish Loans in Neo-Khitanese]
|-
| 2004/10/05
| Christian Thalmann
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/205 Hairo Page in Progress]
|-
| 2004/11/29
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/260 Degrees of volition in Old Albic]
|-
| 2004/12/29
| Bob Thornton
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/263 Revised Hifahoshach phonology]
|-
| 2005/02/20
| Jörg Rhiemeier
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/289 Some Old Albic calendar and mythology stuff]
|-
|-
| 2005/03/27
| [http://wycoval.googlepages.com Tseeyo]
| Angel
|style="background-color:#FFA500"| Niger-Congo
| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lostlangs/message/295 Ynglesh Lawngwedg (Preview)]
| Guinea
| Wycoval
|}
|}


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Latest revision as of 11:24, 9 December 2019

The League of Lost Languages (LLL) was a kind of collaborative fiction-writing project in which the participants described fictional languages that could exist or could once have existed in a world otherwise the same as the real world we all live in. The idea was that in the LLL world, some languages survived that died out in our world, without changing the world more than necessary to accomodate the languages in question. The LLL world is essentially our world with the same history and geography, just with a few extra languages.

This is a kind of "what-if" conworld, i.e. a fictional version of our world in which the change from reality is limited to the existence of a few extra languages. Examples of such "lost" languages include European languages of pre-Indo-European origin, modern East Germanic languages, fictional branches of Indo-European, sister groups of real-world families and isolates, etc. Of course, this is not limited to Europe. An LLL language could be yet another of the many diverse languages of the North American Pacific coast, a modern-day descendant of Sumerian or a pre-Bantu language in the Congo basin. It is also not ultimately necessary that the languages are spoken today; they might be extinct but having left written records.

The participants would contribute their conlangs, say where and when they are spoken, and write fake scholarly papers and similar stuff about them.

This is not a research project about actually existing languages! The languages described by our members are entirely fictional. We all do this just for fun; we just love messing around with fictional languages.

A language contributed to the LLL had to fulfill the following criteria:

  1. It is naturalistic, i.e. it is plausible as a human language. (Or it represents a constructed language, e.g. an auxlang, within the fictional setting.)
  2. It is spoken by humans; non-human races (even Neanderthal survivals etc.) are out of bounds. (The Elves and Dwarves speaking Albic and Razaric are no exception to this: they are humans, not the usual fantasy races.)
  3. Its history is consistent with the known history of the real world. This means that all the major events are the same as in our world. This rule puts limits on conculturing, but it also helps avoiding awkward political and religious debates, and concentrating on the languages.
  4. It is either extinct (having left behind written records) or spoken by a community small enough not to make a difference. (This is pretty much an implication of the criterion above.)

Unfortunately, the LLL is now defunct.

Languages of the LLL

This list is out of date and incomplete!

Language Family Location Author
Albic family Hesperic
 Albic
British Isles Jörg Rhiemeier
Alpianic family Hesperic Switzerland The group
Alpic Danubian Switzerland Taylor Selseth
Attidian Hesperic Italy Jörg Rhiemeier
Continental English Indo-European
 Germanic
Unknown (Europe) Jashan A'al
Çomyopregi Indo-European Europe Damátir Ando
Eteonoric family Eteonoric Austria The group
Føtisk Indo-European
 Germanic
Denmark Tristan McLeay
Hairo isolate Rügen, Germany Christian Thalmann
Hattic Indo-European Russia Jan van Steenbergen
Hifahoshaj isolate Texas Bob Thornton
Kilda Kelen Tungusic Kamchatka Peninsula Kuroda
Kuman Tyli Turkic Russia/Ukraine Isaac Penzev
li~Rumaninu Indo-European
 Romance
Congo Patrick Dunn
Lu Indo-European Southern France and Northern Italy Schwhatever
Mærik isolate Sweden Benct Philip Jonsson
Orinoco English Indo-European
 Germanic
Venezuela Rodlox R
Outidic auxlang   Raymond A. Brown
Razaric family isolate Scotland Jörg Rhiemeier
Roman Germanech Indo-European
 Romance
Odenwald, Germany Jörg Rhiemeier
Rugian Indo-European
 Slavic
Rügen, Germany Piotr Gepfert
Tallarmen Turkic Siberia Kiwipedia
Thagojian Indo-European Egypt/Palestine/Israel Paul Bennett
Tseeyo Niger-Congo Guinea Wycoval