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This page is about the native script.  For the ASCII romanization, see [[Naeso/Transliteration|Transliteration]].
This page is about the native script.  For the ASCII romanization, see [[Naeso/Transliteration|Transliteration]].
==Naeso Syllabary==


Our native script is a syllabary, written from left to right. Each syllable has its own glyph.
Our native script is a syllabary, written from left to right. Each syllable has its own glyph.
An early vote determined that we would use MalfermitaKodo's draft.
An early vote determined that we would use MalfermitaKodo's draft.


* [http://666kb.com/i/bms9xk1jko2gip6mr.png Syllables starting with n]
As the syllabary draft is largely incomplete, there are many syllables lacking from our list. Below are those we have already decided on.
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc5cl6zefu1my8j.png Syllables starting with v] -  [http://666kb.com/i/bmscat8tl1ej78bmb.png vin]
 
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsbakk23i1l39fwz.png Syllables starting with s]
{{ABD}}
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc5qa3u5hhc5fwz.png Syllables starting with f] - [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc7wvvafgwzfykz.png fin]
 
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmscyxlzrbf3rs53n.png Syllables starting with z]
===Vowels===
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsdvnfb354o8ko9f.png Syllables starting with a vowel]  
 
[http://666kb.com/i/bmsdvnfb354o8ko9f.png Syllables starting with a vowel]  
 
===B===
 
[[File:B naeso 2.PNG|none|frame|''ba'']]
 
===D===
 
[[File:D naeso.PNG|none|frame|''da'']]
 
===F===
 
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc5qa3u5hhc5fwz.png Syllables starting with F]
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc7wvvafgwzfykz.png ''fin'']
 
===G===
 
[[File:G naeso.PNG|none|frame|''ga'']]
 
===J===
 
[[File:J naeso.PNG|none|frame|''ja'']]
 
===K===
 
[[File:Naeso syllable ka.png|none|frame|''ka'']]
 
===L===
 
[[File:La.png|none|frame|''la'']]
 
===M===
 
[[File:M naeso.PNG|none|frame|''ma'']]
 
===N===
 
[[File:Naeso syllable na.png|none|frame|''na'']]
 
[http://666kb.com/i/bms9xk1jko2gip6mr.png Syllables starting with N]
 
===Nh===
 
[[File:Nh naeso.PNG|none|frame|''nha'']]
 
===P===
 
[[File:P naeso 2.PNG|none|frame|''pa'']]
 
===S===
 
[http://666kb.com/i/bmsbakk23i1l39fwz.png Syllables starting with S]
 
===T===
 
[[File:T naeso.PNG|none|frame|''ta'']]


===Sound bases===
===Th===


As the syllabary draft is largely incomplete, there are many 'letters' lacking from our list. Below are bases for the missing "letters".
[[File:Naeso syllable tha.png|none|frame|''tha'']]


Note: all of the following images are BASES for the syllabary, and they lack their accompanying vowel-and-or consonant markers. How they are modified for the different vowels is being voted on [[Naeso/Orthography#Syllabary proposals|below]].
===V===


[[File:B naeso 2.PNG]]
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmsc5cl6zefu1my8j.png Syllables starting with V]
[[File:D naeso.PNG]]
* [http://666kb.com/i/bmscat8tl1ej78bmb.png ''vin'']
[[File:G naeso.PNG]]
[[File:J naeso.PNG]]
[[File:La.png]]
[[File:M naeso.PNG]]
[[File:Nh naeso.PNG]]
[[File:P naeso 2.PNG]]
[[File:T naeso.PNG]]
[[File:Tha.png]]


==Syllabary proposals==
===Z===


{{V|Use the sound bases as-is for the syllables ending in -a|result=y}}
[http://666kb.com/i/bmscyxlzrbf3rs53n.png Syllables starting with Z]
{{V|Place all diacritics in the same position|date=2011-6-26|FH|y}}
*'Same position' how?  - [[User:Bornfor|BF]]
*Something like above or below the main glyph. The way they are placed in RJ's draft is inconsistent and hard to learn. —[[User:Fenhl|FH]]


*I'd have to see a proposal on how to do this before I vote for it.  I just don't see how it'd be possible to have something that doesn't look awful, with all diacritic markers in the same spot on every consonant base. - [[User:Bornfor|BF]]
===Diacritics===


{{V|Use diacritics together with the corresponding fricative syllable to mark affricates|result=y}}
All diacritics are placed in the same position: above the main glyph. For example: (''tha'', ''kan'', ''nanh'')


* For example, take the syllable ''fu''. There are currently 4 diacritics which change the syllable to ''fun'', ''fum'', ''funh'' and ''ful''. I propose the introduction of 5 additional diacritics which would change the syllable to ''pfu'', ''pfun'', ''pfum'', ''pfunh'' and ''pful''. —[[User:Fenhl|FH]]
{{N||tha|}}{{N||ka|n}}{{N||na|nh}}


===diacritics===
Diacritics above the main glyph of a syllable indicate either a coda (-l, -m, -n, -nh), an affricate, or both. Diacritics are used together with the corresponding fricative syllable to mark affricates. For example, take the syllable ''fu''. There are 4 diacritics which add a coda: ''fun'', ''fum'', ''funh'' and ''ful''. There is one diacritic which makes the fricative an affricate: ''pfu''. And then there are 4 diacritics which do both: ''pfun'', ''pfum'', ''pfunh'' and ''pful''.


{{V|Use a circle as the ''pfu'' (affricate, no coda) diacritic|date=2011-7-12|FH|y}}
{{V|Use a circle as the ''pfu'' (affricate, no coda) diacritic|result=y}}
{{V|Use a '''T''' as the ''pfun'' (affricate, coda n) diacritic|date=2011-7-12|FH|y}}
{{V|Use a '''T''' as the ''pfun'' (affricate, coda n) diacritic|result=y}}
{{V|Use a diagonal line like '''\''' as the ''pfum'' (affricate, coda m) diacritic|date=2011-7-12|FH|y}}
{{V|Use a diagonal line like '''\''' as the ''pfum'' (affricate, coda m) diacritic|result=y}}
{{V|Use a triangle as the ''pfunh'' (affricate, coda nh) diacritic|date=2011-7-12|FH|y}}
{{V|Use a ^-shape as the "pfunh" (affricate, coda nh)|result=y}}
{{V|Use an '''X''' as the ''pful'' (affricate, coda l) diacritic|date=2011-7-12|FH|y}}
{{V|Use an '''X''' as the ''pful'' (affricate, coda l) diacritic|result=y}}


{{Naeso}} [[Category:Conscripts]]
{{Naeso}} [[Category:Conscripts]]

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This page is about the native script. For the ASCII romanization, see Transliteration.

Our native script is a syllabary, written from left to right. Each syllable has its own glyph. An early vote determined that we would use MalfermitaKodo's draft.

As the syllabary draft is largely incomplete, there are many syllables lacking from our list. Below are those we have already decided on.


Vowels - B - D - F - G - J - K - L - M - N - Nh - P - S - T - Th - V - Z

Vowels

Syllables starting with a vowel

B

ba

D

da

F

G

ga

J

ja

K

ka

L

la

M

ma

N

na

Syllables starting with N

Nh

nha

P

pa

S

Syllables starting with S

T

ta

Th

tha

V

Z

Syllables starting with Z

Diacritics

All diacritics are placed in the same position: above the main glyph. For example: (tha, kan, nanh)

Naeso syllable tha.png
Naeso diacritic n.png
Naeso syllable ka.png
Naeso diacritic nh.png
Naeso syllable na.png

Diacritics above the main glyph of a syllable indicate either a coda (-l, -m, -n, -nh), an affricate, or both. Diacritics are used together with the corresponding fricative syllable to mark affricates. For example, take the syllable fu. There are 4 diacritics which add a coda: fun, fum, funh and ful. There is one diacritic which makes the fricative an affricate: pfu. And then there are 4 diacritics which do both: pfun, pfum, pfunh and pful.

Use a circle as the pfu (affricate, no coda) diacritic — VOTED IN
Use a T as the pfun (affricate, coda n) diacritic — VOTED IN
Use a diagonal line like \ as the pfum (affricate, coda m) diacritic — VOTED IN
Use a ^-shape as the "pfunh" (affricate, coda nh) — VOTED IN
Use an X as the pful (affricate, coda l) diacritic — VOTED IN
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