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Why are some of the consonants listed with parenetheses?  Does that indicate allophones, or what?  Also, what precisely is the distinction between "human" and "professional" in the noun class section?  And, are these noun classes a gender system? [[User:Nik|Nik]] 16:04, 7 October 2007 (PDT)
Why are some of the consonants listed with parenetheses?  Does that indicate allophones, or what?  Also, what precisely is the distinction between "human" and "professional" in the noun class section?  And, are these noun classes a gender system? [[User:Nik|Nik]] 16:04, 7 October 2007 (PDT)
== The suffix shows person/number/gender of the possessor of the suffixed noun. ==
Although any reader would eventually figure it out, it's probably worth mentioning explicitly that the suffix shows person/number/gender of the ''possessor'' of the suffixed noun; not of the noun itself.  The noun is suffixed ''provided'' it is possessed.
Have you considered having the suffix (optionally) also show the ''case'' of the possessor?
Good stuff so far!
[[User:Eldin raigmore|eldin]] 16:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:39, 18 July 2009

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Velar nasal "eng"

ŋ is an IPA symbol that does, in fact, exist here on Frathwiki.

Certain hooked IPA symbols.

ɧɱŋɳɲ are all there; ɲ n with a left hook on the left leg, ɳ n with a right hook on the right leg, ŋ n with a left hook on the right leg (a.k.a. eng). Start editing your page and go down to "special character insertion" just below the new-text frame. Look at the top "IPA" row, just to the right of its middle. The symbol you've used ƞ is not in the top row; it's far to the right in the fourth "Latin" row. But there's an "eng" in the Latin too: look in the third row just about a quarter to a third from the right. You have both an uppercase Ŋ and a lowercase ŋ there.

I made some minor edits

Maybe I shouldn't have, but, since you seemed to be having trouble, I have just now changed some of your n to eng and also changed some of your eta to eng. It's easy to change back if you don't like it. Maybe you don't want to change back but you still wish I hadn't done it. If that's so, tell me; and also, I apologize. I hope I did it right.

Some questions

Why are some of the consonants listed with parenetheses? Does that indicate allophones, or what? Also, what precisely is the distinction between "human" and "professional" in the noun class section? And, are these noun classes a gender system? Nik 16:04, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

The suffix shows person/number/gender of the possessor of the suffixed noun.

Although any reader would eventually figure it out, it's probably worth mentioning explicitly that the suffix shows person/number/gender of the possessor of the suffixed noun; not of the noun itself. The noun is suffixed provided it is possessed.

Have you considered having the suffix (optionally) also show the case of the possessor?

Good stuff so far!

eldin 16:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)