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|align = "center"|tʃ dʒ tʃʰ | |align = "center"|tʃ dʒ tʃʰ | ||
|align = "center"|c ɟ cʰ | |align = "center"|c ɟ cʰ | ||
|align = "center"|k | |align = "center"|k ɡ kʰ | ||
|align = "center"|kʷ | |align = "center"|kʷ ɡʷ kʷʰ | ||
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Note: The ''č ǰ čʰ'' series is recontructed as ''tḱ dǵ dʰǵʰ'' in the Traditional (and most other) systems. It seems clear to me that it's an affricate of some kind, and the postalveolar series is easiest for me personally to pronounce. Aside from a single attested ''dgʷ-'' onset, it's the only root-internal stop/stop cluster in PIE, and I'm quite willing to sweep the lone ''dgʷ-'' under the rug as a ''ǰu̯-''. | |||
==Semivowels== | ==Semivowels== | ||
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==Fricatives== | |||
I suspect two distinct fricatives, the standard ''s'' and ... "something else". If present, it's rare, and I have tended to use ''x'' to notate it. I lean towards postalveolar as the point of articulation (i.e. /ʃ/ ~ /ʒ/), but I have very little evidence to go on so far. | |||
=Gábor Sándi System= | =Gábor Sándi System= | ||
==Stops== | |||
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|align = "center"|p b bʰ | |||
|align = "center"|t d dʰ | |||
|align = "center"|k g gʰ | |||
|align = "center"|kʷ gʷ gʷʰ | |||
|- | |||
|align = "center"|p b bʰ | |||
|align = "center"|t d dʰ | |||
|align = "center"|k ɡ ɡʰ | |||
|align = "center"|kʷ ɡʷ ɡʷʰ | |||
|}<br clear="all"> | |||
Note: ''no palatal series'' | |||
==Semivowels== | |||
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|align = "center"|w | |||
|align = "center"|y | |||
|- | |||
|align = "center"|w | |||
|align = "center"|j | |||
|}<br clear="all"> | |||
==Fricatives== | ==Fricatives== | ||
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''The notations "> ∅" and "> h̬" indicate the outcome in the Anatolian branch.'' | ''The notations "> ∅" and "> h̬" indicate the outcome in the Anatolian branch. The /ʔ/ phoneme is written with an apostrophe: '''ʼ''''' | ||
==Liquids== | |||
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|align = "center"|r | |||
|align = "center"|l | |||
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|align = "center"|r | |||
|align = "center"|l | |||
|}<br clear="all"> | |||
==Nasals== | |||
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|align = "center"|m | |||
|align = "center"|n | |||
|align = "center"|ŋ | |||
|- | |||
|align = "center"|m | |||
|align = "center"|n | |||
|align = "center"|ŋ | |||
|}<br clear="all"> | |||
==Vowels== | ==Vowels== | ||
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''Note: no length distinction'' | ''Note: no length distinction'' | ||
''Note: in this system, syllabic consonants are əC sequences'' | |||
=Rheimer(?) System (IIRC)= | =Rheimer(?) System (IIRC)= | ||
Latest revision as of 11:32, 27 April 2007
Traditional
Stops
| p b bʰ | t d dʰ | ḱ ǵ ǵʰ | k g gʰ | kʷ gʷ gʷʰ |
| p b bʰ | t d dʰ | c ɟ ɟʰ | k ɡ ɡʰ | kʷ ɡʷ ɡʷʰ |
Semivowels
Phonetic values of laryngeals per Beekes
| u̯ u | i̯ i | h1 | h2 | h3 |
| w u | j i | ʔ | ʕ | ʕʷ |
Fricative
| s |
| s z |
Liquids
| r r̥ | l l̥ |
| ɹ ɹ̩ | l l̩ |
Nasals
| m m̥ | n n̥ |
| m m̩ | n n̩ |
Vowels
| e ē | o ō |
| e eː | o oː |
Glottalic System
Stops
| p pʼ pʰ | t tʼ tʰ | ḱ ḱʼ ḱʰ | k kʼ kʰ | kʷ kʷʼ kʷʰ |
| p pʼ pʰ | t tʼ tʰ | c cʼ cʰ | k kʼ kʰ | kʷ kʷʼ kʷʰ |
All other symbols and sounds as per the Traditional system.
My System
Stops
| p b pʰ | t d tʰ | č ǰ čʰ | c j cʰ | k g kʰ | kʷ gʷ kʷʰ |
| p b pʰ | t d tʰ | tʃ dʒ tʃʰ | c ɟ cʰ | k ɡ kʰ | kʷ ɡʷ kʷʰ |
Note: The č ǰ čʰ series is recontructed as tḱ dǵ dʰǵʰ in the Traditional (and most other) systems. It seems clear to me that it's an affricate of some kind, and the postalveolar series is easiest for me personally to pronounce. Aside from a single attested dgʷ- onset, it's the only root-internal stop/stop cluster in PIE, and I'm quite willing to sweep the lone dgʷ- under the rug as a ǰu̯-.
Semivowels
| u̯ u | i̯ i | h1 h̥1 | h2 h̥2 | h3 h̥3 |
| w u | j i | ʔ ɛ | ʕ ʌ | ʕʷ ɔ |
Fricatives
I suspect two distinct fricatives, the standard s and ... "something else". If present, it's rare, and I have tended to use x to notate it. I lean towards postalveolar as the point of articulation (i.e. /ʃ/ ~ /ʒ/), but I have very little evidence to go on so far.
Gábor Sándi System
Stops
| p b bʰ | t d dʰ | k g gʰ | kʷ gʷ gʷʰ |
| p b bʰ | t d dʰ | k ɡ ɡʰ | kʷ ɡʷ ɡʷʰ |
Note: no palatal series
Semivowels
| w | y |
| w | j |
Fricatives
| Traditional | s | z | h1 > ∅ | h1 > h̬ | h2 | h2ʷ | h3 | h3ʷ |
| Sándi | s | z | ʔ | h | x | xʷ | ɣ | ɣʷ |
The notations "> ∅" and "> h̬" indicate the outcome in the Anatolian branch. The /ʔ/ phoneme is written with an apostrophe: ʼ
Liquids
| r | l |
| r | l |
Nasals
| m | n | ŋ |
| m | n | ŋ |
Vowels
| i | u | |||
| e | ə | o | ||
| a | ||||
| ej | oj | |
| aj |
| ew | ow | |
| aw |
Note: no length distinction
Note: in this system, syllabic consonants are əC sequences
Rheimer(?) System (IIRC)
May not be exactly right, it's from memory
Vowels
| i iː | u uː | |
| a aː |
