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*punishment for atlaman raspara of 100 diet if commiting a major crime
*punishment for atlaman raspara of 100 diet if commiting a major crime


Oi>bi on Play bldg


*The likely cognate of Poswa '''pib''' "to pick fruit; sample, example, specimen" in Khulls is '''pʷ''' and in proto-Moonshine '''p'''.
*The likely cognate of Poswa '''pib''' "to pick fruit; sample, example, specimen" in Khulls is '''pʷ''' and in proto-Moonshine '''p'''.


===="U verbs"====
note to self: frathwiki time zone is PST, so all times are 3hrs behiund local
Poswa could use verb affixes such as '''-mpibabo''' "I use my arm", and give them widely divergent semantic definitions.  For example the /mp/ comes from a word meaning thorn, which followed the semantic path
:thorn ---> pointed object ---> elbow ---> arm
And then stayed with the meaning "arm" because that was the most useful. 


All U verbs use bisyllabic forms for the intransitives, and therefore trisyllabic forms for the transitives. These morphemes are '''-ibo -ube -oba''' for the ordinary verbs' ''-o -e -a''.  Thus it is not a simple infix; it is conjugated.
==Subumpam==


''NOTE: I came up with this idea after 4 months of not working on Poswa, however, so I may be overlooking a reason why I didnt try this before.''
Hey.


These are called U-stem verbs or U verbs because in [[babakiam|Play]] the stems typically ended with /u/ or /ū/. They are bipersonal verbs, but both person markers must be the same. Thus, forms like ''*-ubo -obe -iba'' do not occur even though diachronically they would be just as legitimate as the forms that do occur.<ref>Though this leaves open the question of how one would express the literal meaning corrsponding to "i used your key"m, etc. Perhaps they would simply need to be expressed with individual words.</ref> 
I came upon your page [[Subumpam]] using the "Random page" feature, and I think "Subnumpamese" is supposed to be "Subumpamese". [[User:Khemehekis|Khemehekis]] ([[User talk:Khemehekis|talk]]) 13:06, 25 January 2020 (PST)
:Thanks, but thats just one of hundreds if not thousands of typos .... I really dont have the time to keep all these pages going, let alone fix all the typos ... I've lately been focused on writing up pages on my website, anyway ... some of which are also here, and some of which are not.  But thank you, I appreciate the attention. [[User:Soap|Soap]] ([[User talk:Soap|talk]]) 17:46, 6 February 2020 (PST)
:In fact, I just now realized you left this message almost 2 weeks ago. I've actually been slowing down a lot lately. [[User:Soap|Soap]] ([[User talk:Soap|talk]]) 21:07, 6 February 2020 (PST)


If they exist, they would be theoretically an open class, since the derivation of each U affix from a given content word is formulaic and cannot produce an ungrammatical form.  However, many forms would collide, and it is likely that only a small number of such forms would be used outside of poetry and perhaps some specialized fields.  (For example, the same morpheme that for humans could mean "by arm" could for some animals mean "by claw" since the original morpheme is in fact a word for thorn.) 
==Notes==
 
Most U morphemes would be short ones, such as '''-š-''' "by key", which could take either a literal use (e.g. opening a door) or a metaphorical one (performing an action that others cannot do). 
 
Some further potential examples, with generous translations:
 
;INTRANSITIVES
:'''Tampišibi.'''
::I drank wine (because I can).
 
:'''Lappotavibi.'''
::I fell down. (By accident; this derives from ''tane'' "rump, tail" and thus means literally "i fell down with my bottom")
 
:'''Tipopožibi.'''
::I traveled by animal. (/re/ "animal for riding" ---> /rož/ > /ož/)  If this verb came into common use it could ''theoretically'' contract to /tipʷp-/ through regular syncope,  but note that there are no other examples<sup>that i can remember</sup> of this contraction in the language.
::If the affix "by animal" gets grammaticalized, it could shift its meaning widely as have the others, and


These are all etymologically repetitious, and could be replaced by "normal" forms with the shorter verb suffix, since the U form occupies one extra syllable while adding no new meaning. Thus the entire category of U verbs survives through idiomatic use only.
== Your "playful planets" ==


== Subumpam ==
Bornovia? I have a planet in the Lehola Galaxy called Branovia. [[User:Khemehekis|Khemehekis]] ([[User talk:Khemehekis|talk]]) 01:30, 16 February 2021 (PST)
:I think subconsciously I was thinking of Russia, .... I was very young then .... but I didn't really put much thought into names back then.  There was no associated culture to go with it ... it was just a geographical name and ended up hosting many cultures.    [[User:Poswob Rare|Poswob Rare]] ([[User talk:Poswob Rare|talk]]) 14:05, 2 March 2021 (PST) (Soap)


Hey.
== From your Unbalanced Gender Setups list ==


I came upon your page [[Subumpam]] using the "Random page" feature, and I think "Subnumpamese" is supposed to be "Subumpamese". [[User:Khemehekis|Khemehekis]] ([[User talk:Khemehekis|talk]]) 13:06, 25 January 2020 (PST)
''male gender associated with broken objects or unpleasant things. (Jmo; some English feminists sarcastic use of male- as a variant form of mal-)''
:Thanks, but thats just one of hundreds if not thousands of typos .... I really dont have the time to keep all these pages going, let alone fix all the typos ... I've lately been focused on writing up pages on my website, anyway ... some of which are also here, and some of which are not.  But thank you, I appreciate the attention. [[User:Soap|Soap]] ([[User talk:Soap|talk]]) 17:46, 6 February 2020 (PST)
:In fact, I just now realized you left this message almost 2 weeks ago. I've actually been slowing down a lot lately. [[User:Soap|Soap]] ([[User talk:Soap|talk]]) 21:07, 6 February 2020 (PST)


==Notes==
Does "Jmo" stand for "Just my opinion", or is there some conlang called Jmo? [[User:Khemehekis|Khemehekis]] ([[User talk:Khemehekis|talk]]) 13:42, 8 March 2022 (PST)
:Jmo is the name of a conlang I remember reading about some time ago, yes. Offhand I don't remember anything else about it, but there's some information on Reddit. [[User:Soap|Soap]] ([[User talk:Soap|talk]]) 17:58, 8 March 2022 (PST)
::Thanks for the quick response! I don't read Reddit unless googling "Khemehekis" or "Kankonian" takes me to a conversation that's taking place there. [[User:Khemehekis|Khemehekis]] ([[User talk:Khemehekis|talk]]) 20:44, 13 March 2022 (PDT)

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Oi>bi on Play bldg

  • The likely cognate of Poswa pib "to pick fruit; sample, example, specimen" in Khulls is pʷ and in proto-Moonshine p.

note to self: frathwiki time zone is PST, so all times are 3hrs behiund local

Subumpam

Hey.

I came upon your page Subumpam using the "Random page" feature, and I think "Subnumpamese" is supposed to be "Subumpamese". Khemehekis (talk) 13:06, 25 January 2020 (PST)

Thanks, but thats just one of hundreds if not thousands of typos .... I really dont have the time to keep all these pages going, let alone fix all the typos ... I've lately been focused on writing up pages on my website, anyway ... some of which are also here, and some of which are not. But thank you, I appreciate the attention. Soap (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2020 (PST)
In fact, I just now realized you left this message almost 2 weeks ago. I've actually been slowing down a lot lately. Soap (talk) 21:07, 6 February 2020 (PST)

Notes

Your "playful planets"

Bornovia? I have a planet in the Lehola Galaxy called Branovia. Khemehekis (talk) 01:30, 16 February 2021 (PST)

I think subconsciously I was thinking of Russia, .... I was very young then .... but I didn't really put much thought into names back then. There was no associated culture to go with it ... it was just a geographical name and ended up hosting many cultures. Poswob Rare (talk) 14:05, 2 March 2021 (PST) (Soap)

From your Unbalanced Gender Setups list

male gender associated with broken objects or unpleasant things. (Jmo; some English feminists sarcastic use of male- as a variant form of mal-)

Does "Jmo" stand for "Just my opinion", or is there some conlang called Jmo? Khemehekis (talk) 13:42, 8 March 2022 (PST)

Jmo is the name of a conlang I remember reading about some time ago, yes. Offhand I don't remember anything else about it, but there's some information on Reddit. Soap (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2022 (PST)
Thanks for the quick response! I don't read Reddit unless googling "Khemehekis" or "Kankonian" takes me to a conversation that's taking place there. Khemehekis (talk) 20:44, 13 March 2022 (PDT)
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