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'''Palli''' is a laguage spended from [[Thaoa]].  Although originally an indepewdnent society, many [[Andanese]] spilled over and soon became the new majoreity. But their religion did not trasnger over.  Because of the strong Andfanese influence, /ŋ/ is romanized as ''g'' here. (There is no /g/ anuyway)
'''Palli''' is a language expanded from [[Thaoa]].  Although originally an independent society, many [[Andanese]] spilled over and soon became the new majority.    


==Phonology==
Very conservative.  I nfact, Andanese loanwords survived for 4500 years with only one sound change /hi/ > /si/.  That shift was reversed bny analogy because many words with ./hi/ cvould e /ha/ in other forms.  Thuds Andfanes words are unchanged.


==Vocabulary==
==Thaoa (2674) to Palli (4175)==
Palli ported in the entire Andanese vocabulary and added it to their own bocab inheried from ThaoaThus the phonemes of ANdfnaes are just a susbeet of the others and are overrrepreseented repsective to Sakhi etcThew grammr is mostly still Thaoa-like, e.g. it has noun cases derived from infixes, which means it retains closed syllables, even though the vast majority of the jnouns do not have closed syllables in the nominative case because Andanese didnt have closed syllables at allAndanese has many synonyms for the same thing with little difference in m,eaning, e.g. '''latuhi''', '''latuunama''', '''latunuma''' "boat"Palli takes all of these and oftne uses the longest one .
 
The inherited phonology of the crushed Thaoa state was
 
 
Labials:        pʰ  p  b  m  f  v  w
Alveolars:      tʰ  t  d  n  s  z  l
Palataloids:        č  ǯ  ň          y
Velars:        kʰ  k      ŋ  x  g
Postvelars:    qʰ              h
 
#The glottal stop ''ʔ'' came to be spelled '''h'''.   
#The voiced fricatives ''v z g'' shifted to '''f s x'''.
#The '''STAIRCASE SHIFT''' occurred:
#:The voiceless fricatives ''x h'' shifted to '''š''' before any /e i/.
#:The voiceless fricatives ''š x h'' shifted to '''f''' before any /o u/.
#:The voiceless fricatives ''š s'' merged to '''s'''.
#:The voiceless fricatives ''f x h'' merged to '''h'''.
#::Note that in this shift, 1) /f/ stayed /f/ always; 2) /h/ became /f/ when before /a o u/, but became /s/ when before /e i/; 3) /š/ became /s/ when before /a e i/, but became /f/ when before /o u/; 4) /s/ stayed /s/ always.
#The voiced stops ''b d ǯ'' shifted to '''p t č'''.
#The aspirate stops ''pʰ tʰ kʰ qʰ'' shifted to '''p t k q'''.
#The vowels ''e o'' shifted to '''a''' unconditionallyThen, ''ə'' shifted to '''i'''.
#Syllable-final ''k'' assimilated in manner, but not position, to any following consonant.
#Syllable-final ''n'' assimilated in position, but not manner, to any following consonant.
#Syllable-final glottal stop (spelled "h") assimilated in both position and manner to any following consonant.
#The uvular stop ''q'' came to be spelled '''hk'''.
There may be more. e.g. did /č/ survive or did it collapse with /š/ ?
==Orthography==
The Palli scribes insisted on writing their language with the Andanese script, despite it having only 30 syllables. This they shared with the [[Players]].  The Players eventually took over all of Palli-speaking territory, however.
 
==Grammar==
Much of the vocabulary was borrowed from [[Late Andanese]], but the grammar remained native. Though the phonology collapsed to almost the same tiny inventory as Late Andanese, closed syllables remained, and could occur even at the ends of wordsThus, for example, the word '''ulukukuya''' "hook" had dative case '''ulukukuyan'''
 
Even words for simple concepts were often very long, both because of the small phonology and because the inherited Thaoa circumfixes were often wrapped around borrowed Andanese stems that already contained prefixes and were often transparent compounds.  The word for hook above thus contains four morphemes.  ''NOTE: IT IS UNLIKELY THAT PALLI  USED THE SUFFIX -ya FOR HANDHELD OBJECTS, AND MAY HAVE HAD VERY FEW SUXXIES OVERALL.''
 
Verbs had to be followed by particles denoting the  gender of the agent. These were thus like inflecting verbs for gender, but were separate wordsThis was sometimes called the ''Feminist pattern'' or a similar term such as Feminist alignment.
 
==Culture==
==Culture==
Palli people do not consider themselves descendants of the disgraced Andanese; instead, they say they served as a refuge for the Andanese while maintaining their own culture.
Palli was one of the languages of [[ppot#Cream|Creamland]], but was likely not widely spoken since its speakers were descended from the losing side of a major war.  Its survival is primarily due to the genetic traits of its speakers; they were closely related to the much larger [[Paba]]p nation, but did not have the same childhood growth pattern and thus did not accept the introduced [[babakiam|Play]] language, which to them sounded like baby talkWhile in earlier times, this situation had led people to learn [[Andanic languages|Andanese]], by 4175 the Andanese were no longer a distinct population, and therefore their language was reduced to ceremonial use.
==Grammar==
 
In some phrases, subjects are circumfixesThat is, the normal noun goes in front, then the verb and other words dependent on it, then an addition word that reflects the noun.
Note that, while Palli came to sound very similar to [[Late Andanese]], all of this happened ''before'' 4175.
 
 


==Notes==
[[Category:Teppala]]
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[[Category:A priori conlangs]]
[[Category:A priori conlangs]]
[[Category:Trout languages]]

Latest revision as of 08:39, 17 February 2022

Palli is a language expanded from Thaoa. Although originally an independent society, many Andanese spilled over and soon became the new majority.


Thaoa (2674) to Palli (4175)

The inherited phonology of the crushed Thaoa state was


Labials:        pʰ   p   b   m   f   v   w
Alveolars:      tʰ   t   d   n   s   z   l
Palataloids:         č   ǯ   ň           y
Velars:         kʰ   k       ŋ   x   g
Postvelars:     qʰ               h
  1. The glottal stop ʔ came to be spelled h.
  2. The voiced fricatives v z g shifted to f s x.
  3. The STAIRCASE SHIFT occurred:
    The voiceless fricatives x h shifted to š before any /e i/.
    The voiceless fricatives š x h shifted to f before any /o u/.
    The voiceless fricatives š s merged to s.
    The voiceless fricatives f x h merged to h.
    Note that in this shift, 1) /f/ stayed /f/ always; 2) /h/ became /f/ when before /a o u/, but became /s/ when before /e i/; 3) /š/ became /s/ when before /a e i/, but became /f/ when before /o u/; 4) /s/ stayed /s/ always.
  4. The voiced stops b d ǯ shifted to p t č.
  5. The aspirate stops pʰ tʰ kʰ qʰ shifted to p t k q.
  6. The vowels e o shifted to a unconditionally. Then, ə shifted to i.
  7. Syllable-final k assimilated in manner, but not position, to any following consonant.
  8. Syllable-final n assimilated in position, but not manner, to any following consonant.
  9. Syllable-final glottal stop (spelled "h") assimilated in both position and manner to any following consonant.
  10. The uvular stop q came to be spelled hk.

There may be more. e.g. did /č/ survive or did it collapse with /š/ ?

Orthography

The Palli scribes insisted on writing their language with the Andanese script, despite it having only 30 syllables. This they shared with the Players. The Players eventually took over all of Palli-speaking territory, however.

Grammar

Much of the vocabulary was borrowed from Late Andanese, but the grammar remained native. Though the phonology collapsed to almost the same tiny inventory as Late Andanese, closed syllables remained, and could occur even at the ends of words. Thus, for example, the word ulukukuya "hook" had dative case ulukukuyan.

Even words for simple concepts were often very long, both because of the small phonology and because the inherited Thaoa circumfixes were often wrapped around borrowed Andanese stems that already contained prefixes and were often transparent compounds. The word for hook above thus contains four morphemes. NOTE: IT IS UNLIKELY THAT PALLI USED THE SUFFIX -ya FOR HANDHELD OBJECTS, AND MAY HAVE HAD VERY FEW SUXXIES OVERALL.

Verbs had to be followed by particles denoting the gender of the agent. These were thus like inflecting verbs for gender, but were separate words. This was sometimes called the Feminist pattern or a similar term such as Feminist alignment.

Culture

Palli was one of the languages of Creamland, but was likely not widely spoken since its speakers were descended from the losing side of a major war. Its survival is primarily due to the genetic traits of its speakers; they were closely related to the much larger Pabap nation, but did not have the same childhood growth pattern and thus did not accept the introduced Play language, which to them sounded like baby talk. While in earlier times, this situation had led people to learn Andanese, by 4175 the Andanese were no longer a distinct population, and therefore their language was reduced to ceremonial use.

Note that, while Palli came to sound very similar to Late Andanese, all of this happened before 4175.


Notes