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-pnida or -eyo? And the word for "enemy" and "song" seem to be related. | -pnida or -eyo? And the word for "enemy" and "song" seem to be related. | ||
::Yes, hu is definitely a candidate for a verbal root. But regarding "enemy", I think the root-family is actually "iya" (creature), "iye" (vicious animal), "aye" (ha'aye'i specifically). I suppose the obvious thing to presume is that the middle "y" denotes animal, the last vowel denotes a friendliness-hostility spectrum, and the first vowel is some kind of identifier. But this ignores the other parts of the words... | ::Yes, hu is definitely a candidate for a verbal root. But regarding "enemy", I think the root-family is actually "iya" (creature), "iye" (vicious animal), "aye" (ha'aye'i specifically). I suppose the obvious thing to presume is that the middle "y" denotes animal, the last vowel denotes a friendliness-hostility spectrum, and the first vowel is some kind of identifier. But this ignores the other parts of the words... | ||
::: My partial analysis of the morphemic structure is thus (with numbers for the unidentified roots): | |||
Sentence 1 | |||
ma-'iy-a-'a hi-'i hu-'u ha-'iy-e-'i | |||
1-creature-nonhostile-2 3-4 verbalbase-be 5-creature-hostile-4 | |||
These creatures unlike us are vicious animals. | |||
Sentence 2 | |||
ni-'u-'a ma-li-'i na-'a hu-'i-ha | |||
6-be-2 1-7-4 8-2 verbalbase-2-5 | |||
They have killed my song. | |||
Sentence 3 | |||
ha-'ay-e-'i | |||
5-creaturetype2-hostile-2 | |||
shark | |||
Morpheme 4 (-'i) seems to be an adjectival suffix in "hi'i" "unlike (or these)", "mali'i" "my", and "ha'aye'i" "shark" (the last is probably substantive). | |||
Sentence 1 is a predicate sentence SVO. | |||
Sentence 2 is an indicative SOV sentence. SOV suggests that the adjective (mali'i) precedes its nouns (na'a "song"). That's all I've got for now. | |||
Latest revision as of 20:01, 22 August 2010
Someone should develop this into a full language :-D
- Well, the root hu- or hu'- appears in both sentences. Perhaps it's a verbal base like Korean
-pnida or -eyo? And the word for "enemy" and "song" seem to be related.
- Yes, hu is definitely a candidate for a verbal root. But regarding "enemy", I think the root-family is actually "iya" (creature), "iye" (vicious animal), "aye" (ha'aye'i specifically). I suppose the obvious thing to presume is that the middle "y" denotes animal, the last vowel denotes a friendliness-hostility spectrum, and the first vowel is some kind of identifier. But this ignores the other parts of the words...
- My partial analysis of the morphemic structure is thus (with numbers for the unidentified roots):
- Yes, hu is definitely a candidate for a verbal root. But regarding "enemy", I think the root-family is actually "iya" (creature), "iye" (vicious animal), "aye" (ha'aye'i specifically). I suppose the obvious thing to presume is that the middle "y" denotes animal, the last vowel denotes a friendliness-hostility spectrum, and the first vowel is some kind of identifier. But this ignores the other parts of the words...
Sentence 1 ma-'iy-a-'a hi-'i hu-'u ha-'iy-e-'i 1-creature-nonhostile-2 3-4 verbalbase-be 5-creature-hostile-4 These creatures unlike us are vicious animals. Sentence 2 ni-'u-'a ma-li-'i na-'a hu-'i-ha 6-be-2 1-7-4 8-2 verbalbase-2-5 They have killed my song. Sentence 3 ha-'ay-e-'i 5-creaturetype2-hostile-2 shark
Morpheme 4 (-'i) seems to be an adjectival suffix in "hi'i" "unlike (or these)", "mali'i" "my", and "ha'aye'i" "shark" (the last is probably substantive). Sentence 1 is a predicate sentence SVO. Sentence 2 is an indicative SOV sentence. SOV suggests that the adjective (mali'i) precedes its nouns (na'a "song"). That's all I've got for now.
