Round Robin Romlang

The Round Robin Romlang is a collaborative conlang founded by Kenner Gordon, inspired by the Round Robin Conlang. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

More Specific Rules

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

Participants

Current Participants

• Kenner Gordon
• Shair Ahmed
• Kelvin Jackson
• Peter Bleackley
• Calculator Ftvb

It is Kenner Gordon's turn.

Possible Participants

These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.

• Karen Badham
• Benct Philip Jonsson

Former Participants

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Sound Changes

Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate Vulgar Latin.

Stage 1

• a: > a
• e > ɛ
• e: > e
• i > e
• i: > i
• o > ɔ
• o: > o
• u > o
• u: > u
• y > i
• y: > i
• ai > ɛ
• oi > e
• n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
• h > Ø
• w > β
• b > β / V_(V,r)
• m > Ø / _#
• m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
• (e,i) > j / _V
• u > w / _V
• VV > V
• V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
• V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

Stage 2

• [fricative] > Ø / V_V
• n > r / V_V
• g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
• s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

Stage 3

• (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
• s > h / #_V
• u > ʉ
• a > æ / _[+anterior]
• e > ɞ

Stage 4

• i > ʉ
• ɛ > æ
• [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
• β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
• l > λ

Stage 5

• j > λ
• (kw, gw) > (p, b)
• o > u
• (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
• u > ɯ

Stage 6

• a > ɑ / #_
• ɣ > v
• ɔ > ɤ
• (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
• λ > ʎ̥˔

Stage 7

• s > Ø / _#
• [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
• [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
• (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
• r > ʟ

Stage 8

• ʟ > l
• h > ħ / _a
• h > ç / _[front vowel]
• (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
• ɑ > ɒ

Stage 9

• l > λ > ʎ̥˔
• h > Ø
• (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
• VV > VɾV
• u > ʏ

Stage 10

• ɨ > ə
• ɜ > ʌ
• ɔ > o
• ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
• ø > ɵ

Stage 11

• æ > ja
• ə > ∅ /_# unless monosyllabic

Proposals

Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. DCliche 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. Kicgan Vekei 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:

• Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
• Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
• Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
• Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
• Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns

What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? DCliche 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. Kicgan Vekei 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? Kicgan Vekei 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Declension

	pɨæʎa girl f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pɨæʎa	pɨæʎæ
Indirect	pɨæʎæ	pɨæʎaʎɨ

	kampɨ field m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	kampɨ	kampi
Indirect	kampi	kampɨlɨ

	ʎæk, ʎævɛ king m.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ʎæk	ʎævɛ
Indirect	ʎævɛ	ʎævɨ

	maro hand f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	marɨ	mari
Indirect	mari	manɨ

	ʎɛ thing f.
	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ʎɛ	ʎɛ
Indirect	ʎæi	ʎɛʎɨ

	First Person		Second Person
	ɛvɛ I m. and f.	nɨ we m. and f.	ty thou m. and f.	βɨ ye m. and f.
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ɛvɛ	nɨ	ti	βɨ
Genitive	mæi	nɛsʈɨ	tɨi	βesʈɨ
Dative	mi	nɨçi	tɛçɛ	βɨçi
Accusative	mɛ	nɨ	tɛ	βɨ

	—, ɨi himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
Nominative	—
Genitive	ɨi
Dative	çɛçɛ
Accusative	çɛ

	pæ who? m. and f.	pæd what? n. only
	Singular
Nominative	pæ	pæd
Genitive	kiʎɨ	kiʎɨ
Dative	kɨæ	kɨæ
Accusative	pɛn	pæd

	ɛk, æk, ɛk this, this one						ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd that, that one
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter		Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	ek	i	æk	æ	ɛk	æk	ɛʎɛ	ɛʎi	ɛʎa	eʎæ	ɛʎɨd	ɛʎa
Genitive	ɨʎɨ	ɨlɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɒʎɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɨʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎɨʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎaʎɨ	ɛʎiɨ	eʎɨʎɨ
Dative	ɨɛk	i	ɨɛk	i	ɨɛk	i	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi	ɛʎi
Accusative	ɨnk	ɨ	ɒnk	ɒ	ɛk	æk	eʎɨ	eʎɨ	eʎa	ɒʎa	ɒʎɨd	eʎa

Relative pronouns

	pi, pæ, pɨd who, which, that
	Masculine		Feminine		Neuter
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
Nominative	pi	pi	pæ	pæ	pɨd	pæ
Genitive	kiʎɨ	pɨʎɨ	kiʎɨ	paʎɨ	kiʎɨ	pɨʎɨ
Dative	kɨæ	piɨ	kɨæ	piɨ	kɨæ	piɨ
Accusative	pɛn	pɨ	pan	pa	pod	pæ

Conjugation

	Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
	pʌʎtaʎæ		tæʎɛʎæ		pɛtɛʎæ		auziʎæ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtə	pʌʎtamə	tæʎæɾə	tæʎɛmə	pæsə	pæsimə	auzɛɾə	auzimɨ
Second Person	pʌʎta	pʌʎtasɛ	tæʎɛ	tæʎɛsɛ	pæsɛ	pæsɛsɛ	auzi	auzisɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtat	pʌʎtant	tæʎæt	tæʎænt	pæsɛt	pæsint	auzɛt	auzæənt

	Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
	pʌʎtaʎæ		tæʎɛʎæ		pɛtɛʎæ		auziʎæ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaħa	pʌʎtaβamə	tæʎɛħa	tæʎɛβamə	pæsɛħa	pæsɛβamə	auzæɛħa	auzæɛβamə
Second Person	pʌʎtaħa	pʌʎtaβasɛ	tæʎɛħa	tæʎɛβasɛ	pæsɛħa	pæsɛβasɛ	auzæɛħa	auzæɛβasɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaħat	pʌʎtaħant	tæʎɛħat	tæʎɛħant	pæsɛħat	pæsɛħant	auzæɛħat	auzæɛβant

	Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
	pʌʎtaβɛsæ		teʎəɾɛsæ		pɛtɛβɛsæ		auzɛβɛsæ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaçi	pʌʎtaçɛmə	tæʎəɾi	tæʎəɾimɨ	pæsiçi	pæsiçimə	auziçi	auziçɛmə
Second Person	pʌʎtaβɛsti	pʌʎtaβɛstɛ	tæʎəɾɛsti	tæʎəɾɛstɛ	pæsiβɛsti	pæsiβɛstɛ	auziβɛsti	auziβɛstɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaut	pʌʎtaβɛʎənt	tæʎəɾɛt	tæʎəɾɛʎənt	pæsiçɛt	pæsiβɛʎənt	auziçɛt	auziβɛʎənt

	Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
	pʌʎtaβɛsɛ		teʎəɾɛse		pɛtɛβɛsɛ		auzɛβɛsɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaçæʎa	pʌʎtaçæʎamə	tæʎəɾæʎa	tæʎəɾæʎamə	pæsiçæʎa	pæsiçæʎamə	auziçæʎa	auziçæʎamə
Second Person	pʌʎtaçæʎa	pʌʎtaçæʎasɛ	tæʎəɾæʎa	tæʎəɾæʎasɛ	pæsiçæʎa	pæsiçæʎasɛ	auziçæʎa	auziçæʎasɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaçæʎat	pʌʎtaçæʎant	tæʎəɾæʎat	tæʎəɾæʎant	pæsiçæʎat	pæsiçæʎant	auziçæʎat	auziçæʎant

	Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
	pʌʎtaʎɛ		tæʎɛʎɛ		pɛtɛβɛsɛ		auzɛβɛsɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaɾə	pʌʎtaɾɛmə	tæʎɛɾə	tæʎɛɾɛmə	pæsa	pæsɛmə	auzɛɾa	auzɛɾɛmə
Second Person	pʌʎtaɾɛ	pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ	tæʎɛɾɛ	tæʎɛɾɛsɛ	pæsɛ	pæsɛsɛ	auzɛɾɛ	auzɛɾɛsɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaɾɛt	pʌʎtaɾənt	tæʎɛɾɛt	tæʎɛɾənt	pæsæt	pæsænt	auzɛɾæt	auzɛɾænt

	Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
	pʌʎtaʎɛ		tæʎɛʎɛ		pɛtɛβɛsɛ		auzɛβɛsɛ
	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural	Singular	Plural
First Person	pʌʎtaçæʎə	pʌʎtaβæʎɛmə	tæʎəɾæʎə	tæʎəɾæʎɛmə	pæsɛçæʎə	pæsɛçæʎɛmə	auziçæʎə	auziçæʎɛmə
Second Person	pʌʎtaçæʎɛ	pʌʎtaβæʎɛsɛ	tæʎəɾæʎɛ	tæʎəɾæʎɛsɛ	pæsɛçæʎɛ	pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ	auziçæʎɛ	auziçæʎɛsɛ
Third Person	pʌʎtaçæʎɛt	pʌʎtaβæʎɛnt	tæʎəɾæʎɛt	tæʎəɾæʎɛnt	pæsɛçæʎɛt	pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ	auziçæʎɛt	auziçæʎɛnt