Talk:Round Robin Conlang

Question: There is now a root-final <j> appearing. Is this intended to be an obstruent of some kind? Or if it's just /j/, is it intended to contrast with <i> as appears in boib, tsai etc? --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 12:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Question : There is a morphological function where a homo-organic nasal is inserted before the caudal consonant, but we have a problem, because what happens with the root [tsʼun], what does it become? Does it become simply [ts’un], or [ts’ũn], or [ts’unː], or [ts’uːn], or [ts’ũːn]? ave mathyiw at maye

I think it's in the spirit of the game to just decide oneself on answers to these questions if they worry one. So, with only that authority, here's what I might do:

• <j> is /j/ behaving morphophonologically as a final C; <i> after a V can also be [j] but then it's morphophonologically part of the root vowel.
• It seems the least exceptional thing is for /tsʼun/ to go to /tsʼunn/, but that might be realised like one of the other things you suggested.

AlexFink 18:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Plus, if <j> were some kind of stop I'd expect it to go to its corresponding fricative under spirant lenition, but it stays <j>. AlexFink 18:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking something from the [ʒ] ballpark, but a morphophonemical distinction doesn't sound too bad either. For prenasalization of nasals, "gemination" and "nothing" seem the most likely changes — but who's to say it doesn't become /ndr/ or /ln/ or /ŋn/ or something? No-one before we actually use it. --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 21:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

For the record, here's what Pete Bleackley said onlist:

OK, I'm responsible for the nasal infixation rule, so I'll answer this. My intention is that when a nasal is infixed before another nasal, you get a gemminate nasal.

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I intended ñ to have its Spanish value, ie CXS [J], in line with <j> = [j]

AlexFink 22:43, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

We now seem to have two roots for "to be female". That's funny, but I'm tempted to split the semantics somehow. Not right away, but perhaps if it ends up fitting a grammar rule example… --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 18:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The /nuk/ root has been used in an example now, with /ínuk/ used possessed for "wife", for what it's worth. AlexFink 18:30, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Regarding rule 18 on negation, I don't know how to tell whether a root has a "clear opposite"... AlexFink 18:28, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Analysis

Round Robin Conlang/Observations

It should be useful to eventually have documentation beyond everyone's own writeups… --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 20:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)