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===Cross-language trends===


The adnominal demonstatives and demonstrative pronouns are have two elements : '''to''' and either '''di''' or '''de'''.
Many languages have the form of their demonstrative pronoun (DP) and adnominal pronoun (AP) the same, and different from there demonstrative of place (DoP).*
 
===Adnominal demonstatives===


{| border=1
{| border=1
   |align=center| '''dwolo'''
   |align=center|
   |align=left| house
   |align=center| DP
  |align=centre| AP
  |align=centre| DoP
   |-
   |-
   |align=center| '''to dwolo di'''
   |align=center| English -
   |align=left| this house
   |align=center| this =
  |align=centre| this ǂ
  |align=centre| here
   |-
   |-
   |align=center| '''to dwolo de'''
   |align=center| Finnish -
   |align=left| that house
   |align=center| tämä =
    |}
  |align=centre| tämä ǂ
  |align=centre| tässä
  |}
 
* I can not find a fancy tend that would include the words "here" and "there" so I have made one up myself ... DoP.
 
P.Gmc. pronomial stem *khi- (from PIE *ki- "this") + adverbial suffix -r.


===A demonstatives ??===
===A demonstatives ??===

Revision as of 22:18, 9 December 2009

Here and there

da place
di here, this place
de there, that place

Cross-language trends

Many languages have the form of their demonstrative pronoun (DP) and adnominal pronoun (AP) the same, and different from there demonstrative of place (DoP).*

DP AP DoP
English - this = this ǂ here
Finnish - tämä = tämä ǂ tässä
  • I can not find a fancy tend that would include the words "here" and "there" so I have made one up myself ... DoP.

P.Gmc. pronomial stem *khi- (from PIE *ki- "this") + adverbial suffix -r.

A demonstatives ??

to dwolo that house (spoken of before)

With the above constructions the plural is only marked on the noun.

Demonstatives pronouns

to di this
to de that


The demonstrative pronouns have a plural form.

ton di these
ton de those

The non-demonstatives non-human pronoun

to it, that (spoken of before)
ton they, those (spoken of before)

Other stuff

sana = someone sato = something

SA KI NA & KU other demonstratives ??

This set of particles form a logical group.

SA KI NA KU are used for both nouns and verbs. They precede both. For nouns SA KI NA KU have the meaning "some", "no", "that" and "all". For verbs SA KI NA KU have the meaning "sometimes", "never", " --- " and "always". If used singly (for example with a single word reply) they must be immediately followed by the word "do"

As - MAN IS THE MEASURE OF ALL THINGS - when these particles are used alone, they have the meanings ;-

SANA = somebody. some SATO = something KI = nobody KIA = nothing NA = he, she, it NIA = sequence of events just mentioned, NUA = sequence of events about to be mentioned KU = everybody KUA = everything

HU = who HUA = what

Note ;- SA = Does not indicate plurality, only indefiniteness. For plurality you must use the word ALKI.


TI HU & SA

set of particles form a group of word that are connected by usage. That is, many languages use the same word for two functions. It seems reasonable to assume that the word used for the interrogative function seeped into the indefinite function in some languages and into the indefinite function in other languages. We have a seperate word for the three functions.

relative particles interrogatives indefinites relative particles interrogatives indefinites relative particles interrogatives indefinites

TI HU SA

When the interrogative conflates with the indefinite, they have to be kept seperate somehow. We must be able to express WHO DID IT and SOMEBODY DID IT. (If the W question is always fronted and "Somebody did it" => "This was done by somebody")

Index

  1. Introduction to Seuna
  2. Seuna : Chapter 1
  3. Seuna word shape
  4. The script of Seuna
  5. Seuna sentence structure
  6. Seuna pronouns
  7. Seuna nouns
  8. Seuna verbs (1)
  9. Seuna adjectives
  10. Seuna demonstratives
  11. Seuna verbs (2)
  12. Asking a question in Seuna
  13. Seuna relative clauses
  14. Seuna verbs (3)
  15. Methods for deriving words in Seuna
  16. List of all Seuna derivational affixes
  17. Numbers in Seuna
  18. Naming people in Seuna
  19. The Seuna calendar
  20. Seuna units