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End-tags for nouns
'''kla''' = person, man
'''kala''' = people
'''kola''' = a group, band
...................
'''klakla''' = everyone ... '''kulu kala''' = all people
 
 
'''kloga''' = a shoe
'''kaloga''' = shoes ... this plural not used if any other indication of number is given.
'''kologa''' = a pair of shoes
'''kulu kloga''' = all the shoe, an entire shoe
'''klokloga''' = every shoe ... '''kulu kaloga''' = all shoes
 
There are 14 suffixes that can be appended to nouns. Their functions include many of the ones associated with cases. In the table below all the noun suffixes are given. 0-11 are equivalent to what are described by "case" in many languages.


{| cellspacing="5" style="border: 1px #aaa solid"  
{| cellspacing="5" style="border: 1px #aaa solid"  
|1||Nominative: || '''@'''
|0||Nominative: || '''-'''
|-
|1||Accusative: || '''-''' or '''-s'''
|-
|-
|2||Accusative: || '''-s'''
|2||Genitive: || '''-n'''
|-
|-
|3||Genitive: || '''-n'''
|3||Dative: || '''-mu'''
|-
|-
|4||Dative: || '''-mu'''
|4||Ablative: || '''-da'''
|-
|-
|5||Locative: || '''-teu'''
|5||Instrumental: || '''-li'''
|-
|-
|6||Instrumental: || '''-li'''
|6||Inessive: || '''-pi'''
|-
|-
|7||Inessive: || '''-pi'''
|7||Benefactive: || '''-go'''
|-
|-
|8||Benefactive: || '''-go'''
|8||Adessive: || '''-jai'''
|-
|-
|9||Adessive: || '''-jai'''
|9||Locative: || '''-teu'''
|-
|-
|10||Ablative: || '''-da'''
|10||Partative: || '''-be'''
|-
|-
|11||Equative: || '''-fau'''
|11||Abessive: || '''-lu'''
|-
|-
|12||Partative: || '''-be'''
|12||Essive: || '''-fau'''
|-
|-
|13||: || '''-lu'''
|13||"like/-ish": || '''-ca'''
|-
|-
|14||: || '''-koi'''
|14||"in the manner": || '''-koi'''
|}
|}


==Nominative==
For the nominative case, just the bare noun is used. Just the bare noun is used following a preposition also.
==Accusative==
For the accustive case, usually just the bare noun is used. However if the noun is definite, then the suffix '''s''' is added.
==Genitive==
For the genitive, the suffix '''n''' is added. The main use of the genitive is to denotes ownership. However it is used in other situations as well. In fact is uses coincide pretty much with the uses of " 's" and "of" in English.
In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, the infinitive form of the verb comes first. Then the subject of the clause immeditely follows in the genitive. Then the object of the clause follows (if the clause has an object, of course).
==Dative==
For the dative, the suffix '''mu''' is added.
One of the main functions of the dative is to denote the indirect object of an action (that to which something is given, thrown, read, etc).
It also indicates motion towards (as in English). This function is sometimes the "lative case", in some languages. A subset of this function involves time and is usually indicated by "until" in English.
Another use of '''mu''' is 'in the eyes of, in the opinion of'. For example;-
'''mimu re''' "very cold" = I am finding it very cold
It is also used to indicate purpose. When used in this way it is appended to the infinitive form of the verb. For example;- '''kare humpamu''' = I am going to eat.
'''tamu''' = in order to ?
It is used with the object of certain verbs. For example;-
'''?ari ?smu''' = I helped the prisoners
==Ablative==
For the ablative, the suffix '''da''' is added.
It indicates motion from something. A subset of this function involves time and is usually indicated by "since" in English. Must be appended to "that"? Since is usually followed by a clause?
As with the dative (I got a present from my sister)(I was thrown a ball from my father)(I was read a book from my uncle)
Another use of '''da''' is for comparison.For example;-
'''na ro ? mida''' = He is taller than me.
It is also used to indicate cause. When used in this way it is appended to the infinitive form of the verb. For example;- '''kare humpamu''' = I am going to eat.
'''tada''' = because ??
stop fishing
'''da''' ... DACA =  away from?
Another use (called the seperative in Latin) is "the bees kept the farmer from the honey in the hive"
mark motion away from something
kari London = I went to London
?ari Londonda = I came from London
kari Londonmu = I went in the direction of London = I went towards London
==Locative==
'''teu''' "at, near, by"
"schoolTEU" = at school, "tuesdayTEU' = on tuesday. Combines with many preverbs to give relative locations. "out"'''teu dwolon'''= outside the house. etc. etc.
==Instrumental==
'''li''' "with" ... instrumental, adverb forming, adjective forming
"we went with friends", "to see with the eyes", "with care", "with great speed"
saw.LI = with a saw(saw.JAI once considered),
"I bought the doll for 25 baht" Could also be called the "comitative case".
==Inessive==
'''pi''' 
"schoolPI = "in the school building"
as opposed to the more usual term "schoolTEU"
==Benefactive==
'''go''' "for""for the benefit
of," or "intended for"... for bread ??
==Adessive==
'''jai'''    "on, touching, incontact with, adjacent"
contiguous with, about table.JAI = on the table, "I am talking about you lot", "He is a alcoholic", "He is in love"
==Partative==
the partative case marker
"five of them', "she drank from the milk", "I watched the news", "he searched for his screwdriver(and did not find it)" ... If instead of "BE", "S" is suffixed in the above sentence, then the meaning of each one changes quite a bit.


There are 14 of these end-tags (cases if you will).
==Abessive==


@ If the noun is the subject of the sentence or follows a preposition.
'''lu''' Equivalent to the English "without" or " -less". The same as '''li'''  but opposite. She left the room without speaking. without buying. without caring.


MU "to" ... MUTEU = upto, MUCHA = towards
==Essive==
In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, in the clause the verb is in its full/citation form (actually a verbal noun), the subject is marked with the genative and the object with MU.


JAI "on, touching, incontact with, adjacent" ... JAIMU = onto, JAIDA = off
'''fau'''    Called the essive case here because it is very close to the Finnish case which is called the essive. Usually expressed in English with "as". It denotes a temporary state. For example;-
contiguous with, about table.JAI = on the table, "I am talking about you lot", "He is a alcoholic", "He is in love"


FAU "as" ... (this denotes a temporary state as ) "I work as a waiter", "She replied in English", youngsterFAU = when I was a youth/in my youth/as a youngster, it is cubFAU big = considering it is a cub, it is big, as the city was captured we fled
"I work as a waiter",  
"She replied in English"??
youngsterFAU = when I was a youth/in my youth/as a youngster,
cubFAU big = considering it is a cub, it is big,  
as the city was captured we fled ??


"equative case",
In English it sometimes corresponds to "while" or "in the capacity of"


According to SIL:
According to SIL:
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specified by a noun.
specified by a noun.


The case has the meaning of
=="like"==
 
'''ca''' is used to make an adjective from a noun. Sometimes an adjective from another adjective. Sometimes a case-ending from another case ending. Can also be considered a noun in its own right? For example;-
 
= humanoid


while, and
= bluish
in the capacity of.


'''tateuca'''= if


BE the partative case marker
denotes likeness or similarity, does not denote a temporary state as FAU does.
"five of them', "she drank from the milk", "I watched the news", "he searched for his screwdriver(and did not find it)" ... If instead of "BE", "S" is suffixed in the above sentence, then the meaning of each one changes quite a bit.


GO "for"
=="in the manner"==


DA "from" ... DACHA =  away from
'''koi''' Usually in Seuna the adjective comes directly after the noun. If an adjective comes directly after a verb it is an adverb qualifying that verb. However if '''koi''' is affixed to the adjective, it can be moved anywhere in the sentence and will be understood to be acting on the main verb of that sentence. It can also be suffixed to nouns to give an adverb. For example;-
This has a number of functions. The main one is as in "he walked home from school"
Another one is "I am taller from my father"
Another one is "the bees kept the farmer from the honey in the hive"


LI "with" ... instrumental, adverb forming, adjective forming
She behaves as a boy.
"we went with friends", "to see with the eyes", "with care", "with great speed"
saw.LI = with a saw(saw.JAI once considered),
"I bought the doll for 25 baht"


LU "without" ... the same as LI  but opposite
He is dressed in European fashion.


CA "-ish" ... denote likeness or similarity, does not denote a temporary state
Stand like soldiers.
    as FAU does


S if the noun is the "undergoer" in the sentence
To love as brethern.


KOI "like, in the manner of" ... He walks like a woman.
That boy acts like an emperor.
this denotes, not a generl likeness as CA does, but a likeness in relation
to a particular action


PI "in" ... PIMU = into, PIDA = out of
Note that koi does not denote a generl likeness as '''ca''' does, but a likeness in relation
"schoolPI = "in the school building"
to a particular action.
as opposed to the more usual term "schoolTEU"
==Rubbish==


TEU "at, near, by" ... TEUCHA = around ??
"schoolTEU" = at school, "tuesdayTEU' = on tuesday


N "of" ... the genitive, denotes ownership
In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, in the clause the verb is in its full/citation form (actually a verbal noun), the subject is marked with the genative and the object with MU (or S ??).


@ If the noun is the subject of the sentence or follows a preposition.


MU "to" ... MUTEU = upto, MUCHA = towards
In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, in the clause the verb is in its full/citation form (actually a verbal noun), the subject is marked with the genative and the object with MU.


-NI equivalent to "to" or "for" i.e.    comeARA HITANI  xxS = I am coming in order to hit her ????
-NI equivalent to "to" or "for" i.e.    comeARA HITANI  xxS = I am coming in order to hit her ????
AN = reason, ANMU = in order to, ANDA = because
AN = reason, ANMU = in order to, ANDA = because


{| cellspacing="5" style="border: 1px #aaa solid"
|1||Illative: || '''pimu'''|"into"
|-
|2||Elative: || '''pida'''|"from out of" or "from the inside of"
|-
|3||Allative: || '''jaimu'''|"onto"
|-
|4||Ablative: || '''jaida'''|"from of off"
|-
|5||Nonamive: || '''teuca'''|"around about" or "if"
|}


There are 14 primary family relationships as given below.
'''dwolopida''' = "out of the house"
 
"table"'''jaimu''' = "onto the table"
{| border=1
  |align=center| mother
  |align=center| '''mama'''
  |-
  |align=center| son
  |align=center| '''yaya'''
  |-
  |align=center| daughter
  |align=center| '''jaja'''
  |-
  |align=center| grand-daughter
  |align=center| '''fafa'''
  |-
  |align=center| father
  |align=center| '''baba'''
  |-
  |align=center| older sister
  |align=center| '''gaga'''
  |-
  |align=center| older brother
  |align=center| '''dada'''
  |-
  |align=center| grand-mother
  |align=center| '''caca'''
  |-
  |align=center| female cousin
  |align=center| '''sasa'''
  |-
  |align=center| younger sister
  |align=center| '''kaka'''
  |-
  |align=center| grandson
  |align=center| '''papa'''
  |-
  |align=center| younger brother
  |align=center| '''tata'''
  |-
  |align=center| grandfather
  |align=center| '''wawa'''
  |-
  |align=center| male cousin
  |align=center| '''nana'''
    |}
 
Derived from the above. there are 16 secondary family relationships as given below.
 
{| border=1
  |align=center| uncle
  |align=center| '''daba'''
  |-
  |align=center| uncle
  |align=center| '''taba'''
  |-
  |align=center| aunt
  |align=center| '''gaba'''
  |-
  |align=center| aunt
  |align=center| '''kaba'''
  |-
  |align=center| uncle
  |align=center| '''dama'''
  |-
  |align=center| uncle
  |align=center| '''tama'''
  |-
  |align=center| aunt
  |align=center| '''gama'''
  |-
  |align=center| aunt
  |align=center| '''kama'''
  |-
  |align=center| offspring/children
  |align=center| '''yaja'''
  |-
  |align=center| parents
  |align=center| '''maba'''
  |-
  |align=center| grandparents
  |align=center| '''cawa'''
  |-
  |align=center| brothers
  |align=center| '''data'''
  |-
  |align=center| sisters
  |align=center| '''gaka'''
  |-
  |align=center| elder syblings
  |align=center| '''daga'''
  |-
  |align=center| younger syblings
  |align=center| '''taka'
  |-
  |align=center| relations
  |align=center| '''sana'''
    |}
 
All the above 36 words (xAxA) words and the 2x240 personal names (xExE & xOxO) do not express plurality on the actual word. (You can use the word ALKA)
 
GWO ……… member ... GAWO members
UGO ………. group ... WAGO groups
HALGO …… family – this is a good example of a compound word
 
GYA = man
GAYA = men, male
 
BYA = woman
BAYA = women, female


LA = person
The ablative in the above table is clearly different from the ablative in the first table...we need another fancy name.
LAWA = people, human


==Index==
==Index==


{{Seuna index}}
{{Seuna index}}

Latest revision as of 06:09, 7 June 2008

kla = person, man kala = people kola = a group, band ................... klakla = everyone ... kulu kala = all people


kloga = a shoe kaloga = shoes ... this plural not used if any other indication of number is given. kologa = a pair of shoes kulu kloga = all the shoe, an entire shoe klokloga = every shoe ... kulu kaloga = all shoes

There are 14 suffixes that can be appended to nouns. Their functions include many of the ones associated with cases. In the table below all the noun suffixes are given. 0-11 are equivalent to what are described by "case" in many languages.

0 Nominative: -
1 Accusative: - or -s
2 Genitive: -n
3 Dative: -mu
4 Ablative: -da
5 Instrumental: -li
6 Inessive: -pi
7 Benefactive: -go
8 Adessive: -jai
9 Locative: -teu
10 Partative: -be
11 Abessive: -lu
12 Essive: -fau
13 "like/-ish": -ca
14 "in the manner": -koi

Nominative

For the nominative case, just the bare noun is used. Just the bare noun is used following a preposition also.

Accusative

For the accustive case, usually just the bare noun is used. However if the noun is definite, then the suffix s is added.

Genitive

For the genitive, the suffix n is added. The main use of the genitive is to denotes ownership. However it is used in other situations as well. In fact is uses coincide pretty much with the uses of " 's" and "of" in English.

In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, the infinitive form of the verb comes first. Then the subject of the clause immeditely follows in the genitive. Then the object of the clause follows (if the clause has an object, of course).

Dative

For the dative, the suffix mu is added.

One of the main functions of the dative is to denote the indirect object of an action (that to which something is given, thrown, read, etc).

It also indicates motion towards (as in English). This function is sometimes the "lative case", in some languages. A subset of this function involves time and is usually indicated by "until" in English.

Another use of mu is 'in the eyes of, in the opinion of'. For example;- mimu re "very cold" = I am finding it very cold

It is also used to indicate purpose. When used in this way it is appended to the infinitive form of the verb. For example;- kare humpamu = I am going to eat. tamu = in order to ? It is used with the object of certain verbs. For example;-

?ari ?smu = I helped the prisoners

Ablative

For the ablative, the suffix da is added.

It indicates motion from something. A subset of this function involves time and is usually indicated by "since" in English. Must be appended to "that"? Since is usually followed by a clause?

As with the dative (I got a present from my sister)(I was thrown a ball from my father)(I was read a book from my uncle)

Another use of da is for comparison.For example;- na ro ? mida = He is taller than me.

It is also used to indicate cause. When used in this way it is appended to the infinitive form of the verb. For example;- kare humpamu = I am going to eat. tada = because ?? stop fishing

da ... DACA = away from? Another use (called the seperative in Latin) is "the bees kept the farmer from the honey in the hive"

mark motion away from something

kari London = I went to London ?ari Londonda = I came from London

kari Londonmu = I went in the direction of London = I went towards London

Locative

teu "at, near, by" "schoolTEU" = at school, "tuesdayTEU' = on tuesday. Combines with many preverbs to give relative locations. "out"teu dwolon= outside the house. etc. etc.

Instrumental

li "with" ... instrumental, adverb forming, adjective forming "we went with friends", "to see with the eyes", "with care", "with great speed" saw.LI = with a saw(saw.JAI once considered), "I bought the doll for 25 baht" Could also be called the "comitative case".

Inessive

pi "schoolPI = "in the school building" as opposed to the more usual term "schoolTEU"

Benefactive

go "for""for the benefit

of," or "intended for"... for bread ?? 

Adessive

jai "on, touching, incontact with, adjacent" contiguous with, about table.JAI = on the table, "I am talking about you lot", "He is a alcoholic", "He is in love"

Partative

the partative case marker "five of them', "she drank from the milk", "I watched the news", "he searched for his screwdriver(and did not find it)" ... If instead of "BE", "S" is suffixed in the above sentence, then the meaning of each one changes quite a bit.

Abessive

lu Equivalent to the English "without" or " -less". The same as li but opposite. She left the room without speaking. without buying. without caring.

Essive

fau Called the essive case here because it is very close to the Finnish case which is called the essive. Usually expressed in English with "as". It denotes a temporary state. For example;-

"I work as a waiter", "She replied in English"?? youngsterFAU = when I was a youth/in my youth/as a youngster, cubFAU big = considering it is a cub, it is big, as the city was captured we fled ??

In English it sometimes corresponds to "while" or "in the capacity of"

According to SIL:

Equative case is a case that expresses likeness or identity to the referent of the noun it marks.

It can have meaning, such as

as like, and in the capacity of.

or even an "essive case",

According to SIL:

Essive case is a case that expresses the temporary state of the referent specified by a noun.

"like"

ca is used to make an adjective from a noun. Sometimes an adjective from another adjective. Sometimes a case-ending from another case ending. Can also be considered a noun in its own right? For example;-

= humanoid

= bluish

tateuca= if

denotes likeness or similarity, does not denote a temporary state as FAU does.

"in the manner"

koi Usually in Seuna the adjective comes directly after the noun. If an adjective comes directly after a verb it is an adverb qualifying that verb. However if koi is affixed to the adjective, it can be moved anywhere in the sentence and will be understood to be acting on the main verb of that sentence. It can also be suffixed to nouns to give an adverb. For example;-

She behaves as a boy.

He is dressed in European fashion.

Stand like soldiers.

To love as brethern.

That boy acts like an emperor.

Note that koi does not denote a generl likeness as ca does, but a likeness in relation to a particular action.

Rubbish

@ If the noun is the subject of the sentence or follows a preposition.

MU "to" ... MUTEU = upto, MUCHA = towards In the situation were a clause is the subject or object of a sentence, in the clause the verb is in its full/citation form (actually a verbal noun), the subject is marked with the genative and the object with MU.

-NI equivalent to "to" or "for" i.e. comeARA HITANI xxS = I am coming in order to hit her ???? AN = reason, ANMU = in order to, ANDA = because

1 Illative: "into"
2 Elative: "from out of" or "from the inside of"
3 Allative: "onto"
4 Ablative: "from of off"
5 Nonamive: "around about" or "if"

dwolopida = "out of the house" "table"jaimu = "onto the table"

The ablative in the above table is clearly different from the ablative in the first table...we need another fancy name.

Index

  1. Introduction to Seuna
  2. Seuna : Chapter 1
  3. Seuna word shape
  4. The script of Seuna
  5. Seuna sentence structure
  6. Seuna pronouns
  7. Seuna nouns
  8. Seuna verbs (1)
  9. Seuna adjectives
  10. Seuna demonstratives
  11. Seuna verbs (2)
  12. Asking a question in Seuna
  13. Seuna relative clauses
  14. Seuna verbs (3)
  15. Methods for deriving words in Seuna
  16. List of all Seuna derivational affixes
  17. Numbers in Seuna
  18. Naming people in Seuna
  19. The Seuna calendar
  20. Seuna units