Talk:Proto-Cardial

What is this??? The nominal paradigm of Proto-Hesperic, and the pronominal paradigm from the old version of Proto-Razaric? Are you serious? --WeepingElf (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2018 (PST)

Or do you merely intend them as templates to fill with your own content? --WeepingElf (talk) 13:49, 9 February 2018 (PST)

Sorry, I just wanted to use the templates that I will modify, I do not know how to make tables. --Spinovenator (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2018 (PST)

It's OK. The wiki markup language on FrathWiki is the same as on Wikipedia, and a tutorial can be found here. The table format is explained here. --WeepingElf (talk) 08:54, 10 February 2018 (PST)

BTW: I like the way your language develops. --WeepingElf (talk) 08:55, 10 February 2018 (PST)

Thank you! --Spinovenator (talk) 09:50, 10 February 2018 (PST)

Verb classes

I do not understand the verb classes, and why word order is different with them. I am not aware of any language (in the real world) which does this kind of thing. This looks like misunderstood Georgian verb classes to me, which are essentially just an active-stative system. --WeepingElf (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2018 (PDT)

Actually they are my invention, I wanted to try a different way of understanding the verb and that the daughter languages would develop from there systems of honorific according to the type of conjugation and also differences between transitivity, I was inspired a bit by Georgian screeves, but in truth has nothing to do. At first they need revision to make them a little more useful, and more logical. --Spinovenator (talk) 14:38, 7 November 2018 (PST)

I have converted the verbal classes into respect classes, so they are much more useful. Classes may have been generated with the appearance of agriculture to designate the richest and most powerful families that should have already appeared, at this time, it seems that there are still no monarchs or great rulers, but no doubt the social differences would begin to appear. --Spinovenator (talk) 05:24, 9 November 2018 (PST)

I see. Yet, I am not aware of any natlang which changes morphosyntactic alignment and case usage according to degrees of respect and politeness in such a way, and it still looks like a caricature of Kartvelian to me. --WeepingElf (talk) 10:02, 9 November 2018 (PST)

There are Natlangs in which men and women speak a different language with respect to vocabulary, for example Ubang; there are also others in that the higher classes change besides vocabulary, the phonology, see Damin; and proto-cardial, instead of changing the vocabulary, changes the morphosyntactic alignment to refer to higher classes, it does not seem so strange to me. Before this had more resemblance to kartvelian, but now there are no classes for each type of verbs, there are different ways to conjugate a verb according to the class that you refer to. The honorific class is intemporary and the formal class only allows the past, so they are not very functional, they are normally speaking using the polite (western) and the causal (eastern). --Spinovenator (talk) 11:43, 9 November 2018 (PST)

I wouldn't say that what you do was impossible; yet, it seems bizarre and not very well thought of to me. But it is ypur conlang, and I have seen many things in conlangs that were far worse; so it is not really my position to censure you. --WeepingElf (talk) 12:24, 9 November 2018 (PST)